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Title: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Gerty Gumdrop on May 22, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
This may have been posted sometime earlier but I haven't noticed whether it has ......

So, there's a noticeable lack of paper and bottle banks in Inkersall/Staveley.  They've been gone for weeks now.  Is it the same in Chesterfield?  And does anyone know why?

Considering the insert in the blue bin is inadequate, the paper banks in particular were a good local facility.  I am actually missing them.

Just wondering  :)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 22, 2012, 09:25:22 PM
Same in Chesterfield, the ones along our road went soon after the blue bins appeared. We now take cardboard to the recycling place on Sheffield Road.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on May 23, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
We have large burgundy bins in our area which have replaced to small blue ones, having now a blck, green and burgundy bin lined up outside I am changing our house name to 'Stig's'  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: k4blades on May 23, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
 :)) :))

Isn't there a recycling center behind the Healthy Living Center in Stavely. I don't know if they are bottle banks, paper, clothes or whatever, but I drive past them often.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 23, 2012, 10:43:30 AM
we've had this on another thread. The council figure that if you aren't prepared to put bottles and paper in a bin in your back yard you're not going to drive to a recycling site to do it.
I would assume for bulk recycling (say after one of Pete's wild parties  :o) you can still take them to Sheffield Road.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Alsatian on May 23, 2012, 11:18:02 AM
we've had this on another thread. The council figure that if you aren't prepared to put bottles and paper in a bin in your back yard you're not going to drive to a recycling site to do it.

Ah, but that's where you're wrong, walking past the 'old' recycling site on Chester Street yesterday and someone has bothered to drive/walk/crawl to the site and deposit a carrier bag full of (beer) bottles!!  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: emmz on May 23, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
Thought they were gone now? Walk on chester st every day it looks a bit odd to not see the recycle bins however people took the liberty in putting other kinds of rubbish there. Surfice to say im kind of glad in a way they have gone from the area. Though the paper/cardboard part of the blue bin isnt big enough you end up with bags out with yer bin...
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: simondjuk on May 23, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
Do you not now have the Burgundy Bins for recycling?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: ~Aitch~ on May 23, 2012, 04:04:39 PM
Not yet .... just Grey, green and blue at the moment.   I'm hoping for pink next  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on May 23, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Do you not now have the Burgundy Bins for recycling?

Chezzy have blue bins
Boza have burgundy bins

Chezzy can't put cardboard in the main bin, just in the insert. Ridiculous  ::)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 23, 2012, 05:28:18 PM
The whole recycling thing in Derbyshire is ridiculous - surely the councils can think collectively and come up with a county-wide policy?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on May 23, 2012, 05:44:55 PM
Welcome to Derbyshire  ::)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on May 23, 2012, 05:50:15 PM
>> The whole recycling thing in Derbyshire is ridiculous - surely the councils can think collectively and come up with a county-wide policy?

But that would mean the Cons talking to Labour and vice versa...  ::)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 23, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
>> The whole recycling thing in Derbyshire is ridiculous - surely the councils can think collectively and come up with a county-wide policy?

But that would mean the Cons talking to Labour and vice versa...  ::)

It seems to work elsewhere: http://www.somersetwaste.gov.uk/ (http://www.somersetwaste.gov.uk/)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 23, 2012, 08:21:40 PM
Went out to tender and got the best deal, massive saving on the previous contract so it's up to them where they recycle.
NEDDC have cardboard in the main part of bin but they are inferior to CBC in that they take a couple of weeks to get back to the right day after bank holidays and they don't do both recycling bins on the same day
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on May 23, 2012, 08:25:14 PM
Bollocks. Chezzy took the cheapest deal and it's fuc*** silly.
Cardboard in the insert, not the bin.  :)) Crazy !!
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 23, 2012, 08:27:01 PM
Just how much cardboard do people use? Only had to put it at the side of the bin once
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on May 23, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Must admit I like the bin the way it is - we don't have much cardboard - but loads of beer cans   :-[ :)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 23, 2012, 08:32:14 PM
Any plans for an anaerobic digester so that kitchen waste can be collected and made use of rather than going into landfill?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on May 23, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
>> anaerobic digester

I had mine removed when I was a child...

Sorry  :-[
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 23, 2012, 11:28:53 PM
Just how much cardboard do people use? Only had to put it at the side of the bin once

Depends on your eating habits. Cereal boxes, cardboard packaging round yoghurts, biscuit boxes etc we can soon fill the very small insert we have. Never filled the green bin with cardboard though  Yp
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 24, 2012, 06:43:31 AM
Any plans for an anaerobic digester so that kitchen waste can be collected and made use of rather than going into landfill?

There was one proposed for Grassmoor about 5 years ago, I even saw the layout as my workbase was also due to be transferred there; it got kicked out by planners. Arkwright is now proposed. Problem is people want this facility but not on their doorsteps.

I woul like NEDDC to have it, they seem t be developing large housing estates that impact on Chesterfield's infrastructure so they owe us one.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Stuart on May 24, 2012, 07:22:12 AM
Have to say I'm happy with how things are now, too; the cardboard insert is fine, although the corners have become knocked off ours, so it doesn't sit at the top of the bin, but drops into it. Plenty of room for plastic milk jugs - I shudder to think how many of those went to landfill before.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: k4blades on May 24, 2012, 07:46:55 AM
Depends on your eating habits. Cereal boxes, cardboard packaging round yoghurts, biscuit boxes etc we can soon fill the very small insert we have. Never filled the green bin with cardboard though  Yp

Agreed, ours is always over flowing. We only manage because we put cardboard in the main body of the bin along with the tins, etc. Defeats the purpose a bit, but I'm not prepared to leave it at the side of the bin, on the past occasions when this has happened, its ended up blown all over the front garden. (Meanwhile, geen bin sits there almost empty.)

Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 24, 2012, 07:58:40 AM
There was one proposed for Grassmoor about 5 years ago, I even saw the layout as my workbase was also due to be transferred there; it got kicked out by planners. Arkwright is now proposed. Problem is people want this facility but not on their doorsteps.

There must be brownfield sites in the area that are too heavily polluted for housing where one could be situated. People have short memories, what was coming from those sites on a daily basis a few decades ago was far worse.

I woul like NEDDC to have it, they seem t be developing large housing estates that impact on Chesterfield's infrastructure so they owe us one.

You seem to have a downer on NEDDC, why's that?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 24, 2012, 08:01:58 AM
There was one proposed for Grassmoor about 5 years ago, I even saw the layout as my workbase was also due to be transferred there; it got kicked out by planners. Arkwright is now proposed. Problem is people want this facility but not on their doorsteps.

I woul like NEDDC to have it, they seem t be developing large housing estates that impact on Chesterfield's infrastructure so they owe us one.

What's your definition of Chesterfield's Infrastructure?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: k4blades on May 24, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
Slacker raises a good point though, in that we all want want want, but no one wants it to be at their expense.


An AD would be a great investment and its a shame the councils can't work out a way to build one as a joint initative, good location: the old coal lite plant at Bolsover. ??? (Opposite Bolsovers recylcle place)
(Alternatively, the council offices.  :)) )
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: simondjuk on May 24, 2012, 08:40:50 AM
Slacker raises a good point though, in that we all want want want, but no one wants it to be at their expense.


An AD would be a great investment and its a shame the councils can't work out a way to build one as a joint initative, good location: the old coal lite plant at Bolsover. ??? (Opposite Bolsovers recylcle place)
(Alternatively, the council offices.  :)) )

Isnt there an issue there with polluted ground?  Good place to put it though, theres very few houses close by.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 24, 2012, 09:09:14 AM
No joined up thinking in Derbyshire, silo mentality and NIMBY-ism rife it seems  :(

I would have thought The Avenue an ideal site for an AD, it couldn't get much more polluted.


Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on May 24, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
>> anaerobic digester

I had mine removed when I was a child...

Sorry  :-[

I wish my hubby would have his removed as well --- I know just where he is around the house --- I can HEAR him!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: k4blades on May 24, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Isnt there an issue there with polluted ground?  Good place to put it though, theres very few houses close by.

Thats my thinking, it would take less cleaning than if used for domestic purposes. What gets me is that countless millions of taxpayers money, from all level of Govt. gets spent on developing new sites, eg Markam Vale, can't they just direct some of that into cleaning up these brown field sites instead of leaving them to rot.  Now that is wasteful!!
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 24, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
Large development (1500 homes)  proposed at Wingerworth, the logical thing would be to put a relief link road to Grassmoor then through the little used Furnace Hillock Way then to the A617 via Winsick. Instead a lot of traffic will end up snarling up Horns Bridge. NEDDC gets lots of income for providing new homes, CBC has no say in this.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 24, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Slacker: Are you taking the politicians way out and not answering the question?

What's your definition of Chesterfield's Infrastructure?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 25, 2012, 06:38:28 AM
I was referring to the impact on the road systems around Chesterfield, if infrastructure is not the most appropriate word then substitute a different one
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 25, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
If the increase in traffic congestion is in Cgesterfield it will be CBC that gets criticised by a lot of the public whether it be DCC (as with the traffic lights in Hasland) or NEDDC (as with the proposed Winsick development)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 25, 2012, 10:36:13 PM
If the increase in traffic congestion is in Cgesterfield it will be CBC that gets criticised by a lot of the public whether it be DCC (as with the traffic lights in Hasland) or NEDDC (as with the proposed Winsick development)

Would that be the same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of snow clearing?
The same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of Highways?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 06:18:33 AM
Would that be the same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of snow clearing?
The same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of Highways?

And the same CBC that has 6800 homes proposed in the next few years - surely they'll impact on the town's infrastructure?

BTW, the snow clearing was  bad, O/H slipped and badly bruised her knee and the state of the roads is shocking - doesn't CBC fight for Chesterfield in such matters?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on May 26, 2012, 08:14:54 AM
Would that be the same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of snow clearing?
The same CBC that got criticised by certain election candidates about the county council function of Highways?

I'm pleased to say there is a lot better co-operation and coordination between Derbyshire County Council and Chesterfield on that matter. The year before it was very random. Admittedly it has not been tested on a severe winter but it worked well on the few days' snow we had. Grass cutting on highway verges is also  technically a DCC function but it makes sense for districts to do this at the same time as their own land.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 08:23:07 AM
I'm pleased to say there is a lot better co-operation and coordination between Derbyshire County Council and Chesterfield on that matter. The year before it was very random. Admittedly it has not been tested on a severe winter but it worked well on the few days' snow we had. Grass cutting on highway verges is also  technically a DCC function but it makes sense for districts to do this at the same time as their own land.

You have to got be kidding! Try getting to the college after a snowfall, none of the access routes are listed by DCC for snow clearance. The pavements along Sheffield Road took days to be cleared and were lethal - it was an absolute shambles, no different at all from the previous year.

And I note you ignored my post about the impact of CBC's 6800 houses on the town infrastructure - typical politician.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on May 26, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Years ago when my grandfather he was a council worker and responsible for clearing the snow in our village where he lived he had a hand held snow plough, I can't remember what happened with the roads though.
Why can't the council employ someone from each place to do the roads and verges?? Or is it complicated?

ps I came on here thinking it was a topic on bottle banks  :o  :))  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on May 26, 2012, 12:20:22 PM
We should rename our boards the Off-Topic Forums  :))
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
Years ago when my grandfather he was a council worker and responsible for clearing the snow in our village where he lived he had a hand held snow plough, I can't remember what happened with the roads though.
Why can't the council employ someone from each place to do the roads and verges?? Or is it complicated?

ps I came on here thinking it was a topic on bottle banks  :o  :))  ;)

And who was responsible for removing them - CBC, that's who!
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
We should rename our boards the Off-Topic Forums  :))
I blame the Moderator  :)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on May 26, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
@ Dave I've no idea who took em off it - but I think it's a good idea myself.Yes where's the mods??
Letting us go off topic -- no 'helping us' go off topic! ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
@ Dave I've no idea who took em off it - but I think it's a good idea myself.Yes where's the mods??
Letting us go off topic -- no 'helping us' go off topic! ;)

'Go off topic'... for a moment I thought you wrote 'gin and tonic' - if so, mine's a large one please....  :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on May 26, 2012, 05:03:19 PM
Grass cutting on highway verges is also  technically a DCC function but it makes sense for districts to do this at the same time as their own land.
Please tell me you're not trying to claim that as a recent innovation?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on May 26, 2012, 05:05:35 PM
@ Dave --- on a hot sunny day --- mines a carlesberg special brew! ^-^  ^-^  ^-^
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on May 26, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
I'll have half  :D

Back on topic, one of the taxi drivers in town had a couple of cardboard boxes of glass bottles in his boot the other day.
Apparently he'd been on the look out for a bottle bank. I asked why he didn't put them in his blue bin.
He said he didn't use it  :-X
I said you will be from now on  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 06:38:29 PM
Bet there's going to be some very full blue bins after this hot weather!
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on May 26, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Ours is always full  ::)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Big Dave on May 26, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Ours is always full  ::)

Ours is getting that way this evening - hic!  ^-^
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: mycul on May 28, 2012, 09:47:42 PM
Gerty Gumdrop said "Considering the insert in the blue bin is inadequate, the paper banks in particular were a good local facility.  I am actually missing them."

The answer is, read on line and get a Kindle (PS got about 85,000 books that are able to be read on Kindle, but if the Copyright people see this I didn't say it ;))

Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Gerty Gumdrop on June 03, 2012, 10:44:12 PM
:)) :))

Isn't there a recycling center behind the Healthy Living Center in Stavely. I don't know if they are bottle banks, paper, clothes or whatever, but I drive past them often.

They've all gone too  >:(
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 03, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
I read a claim recently that the issue with the new blue bins is that they were originally conceived to be the other way round ie paper in the main bin and bottles/cans in the black tub. When the contract was finalised however someone switched them!
Slacker can you shed any light?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Gerty Gumdrop on June 03, 2012, 10:48:03 PM
>> anaerobic digester

I had mine removed when I was a child...

Sorry  :-[

Is that why you burp so much?  Yp
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Gerty Gumdrop on June 03, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
I wish my hubby would have his removed as well --- I know just where he is around the house --- I can HEAR him!!!  ;)

 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Gerty Gumdrop on June 03, 2012, 10:55:53 PM
Gerty Gumdrop said "Considering the insert in the blue bin is inadequate, the paper banks in particular were a good local facility.  I am actually missing them."

The answer is, read on line and get a Kindle (PS got about 85,000 books that are able to be read on Kindle, but if the Copyright people see this I didn't say it ;))

I never throw my books out.  If they are (at times) a certain degree of smut and filth then I have a long waiting list of other ladies just waiting to recycle them  ;) Yp
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 03, 2012, 11:15:12 PM
I read a claim recently that the issue with the new blue bins is that they were originally conceived to be the other way round ie paper in the main bin and bottles/cans in the black tub. When the contract was finalised however someone switched them!
Slacker can you shed any light?

Glass has been considered for top box, key thing is keeping it apart from paper and cardboard. Main disadvantage is it's more dangerous than cardboard if bin falls over.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on June 04, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
I never throw my books out.  If they are (at times) a certain degree of smut and filth then I have a long waiting list of other ladies just waiting to recycle them  ;) Yp

I'll pm you my address  ;)  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 04, 2012, 09:01:22 PM
Glass has been considered for top box, key thing is keeping it apart from paper and cardboard. Main disadvantage is it's more dangerous than cardboard if bin falls over.

Sorry am I understanding you correctly?
The council had a tender for the supply and emptying of a large recycling bin.
The tender was for a large bin for cardboard with a smaller insert for bottles cans etc
At some point during the process the decision was taken by somebody that it was safer for the glass etc to be in the main part of the bin and the cardboard in the insert.
This was how the contract was let.
Am I right?
And if I am who was the 'somebody'?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 04, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
No, the tender was as it is now. Glass in the top has been suggested as a possible modification.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 04, 2012, 09:45:01 PM
Go on, Ive got to ask ?
Why can't cardboard and glass, tin cans, plastic etc, be mixed in the same large bin area?
Did CBC take a cheaper tender. Therefore making more work for the householder.

Why should the householder in Chezzy bother.
I'd just dump everything in the grey bin !

The alternate 2 week system of grey, burgundy bins seems to be fine in our house.
Most of our cr&p goes in the recycle/burgundy bin.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 04, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
Most things can be separated mechanically but not glass if it breaks) from cardboard & paper
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 05, 2012, 05:23:55 PM
No, the tender was as it is now. Glass in the top has been suggested as a possible modification.

so what's this about then?

The problem with the Blue bins is easy to understand The main body should be for paper and cardboard and the insert for tins and bottles.The problem i,m told, is that somebody changed the rules after the contract for collection and use of the bins being agreed. Why its not possible to amend the collection process to accomodate this is down to the fact the collection vehicles costing tens of thousands to the contractor were ordered and set up to use them as they are now.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 05, 2012, 07:26:38 PM
What about plastics, they take up the most room?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 05, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
What about a comment on my quote?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 05, 2012, 08:49:22 PM
What about a comment on my quote?

Don't understand what you're getting at. They are currently working as was tendered. One suggestion for an alternative is to have glass in the top but it couldn't happen instantly because the recycling facility isn't geared up to it.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 06, 2012, 06:59:12 PM
So you're saying that the tender was always for the bins to work as is now, was never altered but an alternative is now being looked at?
Is that correct?
Is my source wrong?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 06, 2012, 07:12:52 PM
TBH I'm just glad I live in Boza. Were sorted !!
Glass and cardboard in the bin, not insert.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Scimitar on June 07, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
Most things can be separated mechanically but not glass if it breaks) from cardboard & paper
So how come today, whilst on my travels, I saw the guys emptying the burgundy bins, and one of them promptly emptied the black box (which sits in the top of the bin), directly in to the burgundy bin, and then the whole lot was tipped into the wagon.Meaning glass cardboard and paper all together!
Why take the trouble to separate it in the first bloody place??? >:(
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 07, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
So you're saying that the tender was always for the bins to work as is now, was never altered but an alternative is now being looked at?
Is that correct?
Is my source wrong?

Not aware of it
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 07, 2012, 07:01:59 PM
So how come today, whilst on my travels, I saw the guys emptying the burgundy bins, and one of them promptly emptied the black box (which sits in the top of the bin), directly in to the burgundy bin, and then the whole lot was tipped into the wagon.Meaning glass cardboard and paper all together!
Why take the trouble to separate it in the first bloody place??? >:(

Because someone who's read this thread thought glass goes into the insert of a BURGUNDY bin.
So the operator threw it in the main bin section. Where it's supposed to be in a BURGUNDY bin.

 ;D :D :)) Simples  :)) :D ;D :) Or a possible explanation  :-\


I'll re-phrase that. Did they empty paper from the insert into the main lorry compartment ?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Scimitar on June 07, 2012, 07:18:55 PM
Because someone who's read this thread thought glass goes into the insert of a BURGUNDY bin.
So the operator threw it in the main bin section. Where it's supposed to be in a BURGUNDY bin.

 ;D :D :)) Simples  :)) :D ;D :) Or a possible explanation  :-\


I'll re-phrase that. Did they empty paper from the insert into the main lorry compartment ?
They emptied the black insert which sits in the top of the burgundy bin (white envelopes, glossy paper etc), DIRECTLY into the burgundy bin (Glass, cardboard,plastic bottles).
Then entered the combined contents in to the wagon - hence my comment "why bloody separate it in the first place" if the refuse collectors simply tip it all together and it went in to one of those trucks that just crush everything up anyway.
Was stuck behind it in the bus - could not get past for a couple of minutes - saw what they were doing - and thought to myself "why do I bother?"
It was in Newton - not sure if thats NEDDC like me and therefore have a different re-cycling policy?!?!?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 07, 2012, 07:25:24 PM
Quote
promptly emptied the black box (which sits in the top of the bin), directly in to the burgundy bin
Sorry. Totally missed that  :-[
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 07, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
Not aware of it

What??????

Exactly what do you know?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 08, 2012, 06:53:30 AM
That this contract was far cheaper than the previous system (and other bids) and it is much better than having to store all the plastics (which seem to be getting ignored in the debates) then cart them off to bring recycling points.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: k4blades on June 08, 2012, 07:24:16 AM
Theres a difference between cheap and good value.

Over the years there have been many reports about recycling firms just exporting all their collection abroad to some third world dump to be sorted, cheapest option but not really what we ought to be doing. In terms of waste collection, what is needed is a system that is easy to use and understand, and works. Clearly many would say that the current system is not working with the insert being too small for card, so card is either being put in the main bin, or left at the side  and getting blown everywhere. There for maybe a slightly more expensive, (though I don't know why it needs to cost more), option should be sought.
Incidentally Slacker, I don't think you got back to us with the cost of the recent rebranding.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 08, 2012, 10:33:39 AM
That this contract was far cheaper than the previous system (and other bids) and it is much better than having to store all the plastics (which seem to be getting ignored in the debates) then cart them off to bring recycling points.

Ah the politician avoiding the question.
Yes or No.
Did someone alter the contract sometime between approval and commencement to swap insert and main bin roles over.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on June 08, 2012, 06:42:42 PM
Nahhh then ---- if maggie hadn't goten rid o the pits everthin cud av gone on the fire back -- like it did wen I was a kid cept the bottles which i got a penny for tat local shop, an dads and uncles cud still be warmin their ar---- bottoms  ::) on the fire guards  :P :))
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 11, 2012, 11:59:51 AM
Ah the politician avoiding the question.
Yes or No.
Did someone alter the contract sometime between approval and commencement to swap insert and main bin roles over.

The layout of the bins was the choice of the contractors that submitted bids as was the recycling plant they use. Different plants separate materials in different ways so the design of bins has to tie into this.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 11, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
that still doesn't answer the question.
Was a change made at the last minute to swap the two around?
Yes or no?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 11, 2012, 12:06:23 PM
Not sure what you mean, this is the layout submitted by the winning (and most other) tenderer and has not changed since it was submitted.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 11, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
So when someone tells me that there was a change made at the last minute swapping the uses of the insert and the main bin around they are incorrect.
Is that what you are saying?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 11, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: therealjr on June 11, 2012, 12:15:01 PM
That's interesting then.
Here's the quote I originally posted

The problem with the Blue bins is easy to understand The main body should be for paper and cardboard and the insert for tins and bottles.The problem i,m told, is that somebody changed the rules after the contract for collection and use of the bins being agreed. Why its not possible to amend the collection process to accomodate this is down to the fact the collection vehicles costing tens of thousands to the contractor were ordered and set up to use them as they are now. It is now possible to leave side waste and i personally have kept the old blue box to put extra in.

and here's the source

http://www.chesterfieldforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4564&start=20 (http://www.chesterfieldforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4564&start=20)

So which one of you doesn't know what's going on at the council before they post on open forums?
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 11, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
Don't know where he got that from, I'll ask him
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: mycul on June 15, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
And has anybody noticed that when pi55ed and you drop a bottle into the blue bin it tends to smash the other 25 bottles that are in there.
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on June 15, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Answer --- don't get p155ed and drop them in the bin  ???  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 15, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Don't have that problem.
1. We haven't got a blue bin. Ours is green.
2. Our drink comes in plastic bottles  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 15, 2012, 09:58:40 PM
You colourblind? They look burgundy to me
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on June 16, 2012, 06:00:45 AM
Good point Andy  :-[ LOL
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on June 16, 2012, 08:18:12 PM
We have burgundy, black and green bloody eye sore they are - looks like Stig of the Dumps house  >:(
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Slacker on June 16, 2012, 09:51:36 PM
Not as bad as Alfreton with all its bags & boxes
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Fly on February 04, 2013, 07:48:42 PM
Spital looked nice this windy afternoon  ::)

(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/20130204_058_zpsa0ed44d1.jpg)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on February 04, 2013, 08:14:56 PM
Nah, it always looks like that  :))  ;)
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Old Cruser on February 04, 2013, 08:25:37 PM
We found someone's pay slip from 2004 in our front garden this morning and they were not from our village - the mind boggels
Title: Re: Paper and Bottle Banks
Post by: Pete on February 04, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
(Insert joke here about wages in 2004 going a long way)