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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Old Cruser on July 09, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
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Sounds like more chaos is on the way when the new £300.000 sculpture is brought and placed on the roundabout.
I can't see a date though - does anyone know when this will be ?
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/warning-over-delays-as-lanes-will-be-shut-at-chesterfield-roundabout-1-6719559 (http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/warning-over-delays-as-lanes-will-be-shut-at-chesterfield-roundabout-1-6719559)
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Should be finished by December :-X
I just hope the lane closures are for the 1 day whilst all the crap is transported onto the roundabout.
£300,000 for a sculpture.
I won't hold my breath. I'm to young to die. ::)
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I'm looking forward to it - we need a bit of culture in this (chav) town.
We're knocking down beautiful buildings and throwing up "boxes" - what will we look like in 20 years time? Concrete jungle?
It took our council over 100 years to get a museum - and a little one at that.
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What did they finally decide on Pete?
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Can they phase the traffic lights better while they are at it?
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Some sort of tree thing, to promote growth I think.
Personally I think it was the wrong choice - but they left it up to the public to decide...
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This:
https://www.facebook.com/derbyshiretimes/posts/668653226492357 (https://www.facebook.com/derbyshiretimes/posts/668653226492357)
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Thanks for the link Fly, can't say I'm too impressed.
Suppose they will stick fairy lights on at Christmas - if there's any money left in the pot.
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The replies on that are typical of the neanderthal thinking of this town.
Why do people go to Paris, Rome, Venice, etc etc? Because they are beautiful cities filled with art.
What do we get in Chesterfield? Another bingo hall?...
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I thought you said you wasn't too keen on it Pete?
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Thanks for the link Fly, can't say I'm too impressed.
Suppose they will stick fairy lights on at Christmas - if there's any money left in the pot.
It not that interesting to look at IMO. Ive never understood why things like this cost so much bloody money.
What just not turf it and put flowers on. Huge cost saving as they could buy it all from B&Q as its only a stones throw away!
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Maybe they wanted something which wasn't too striking for safety reasons.
Drivers looking at sculpture whist going round the island isn't that safe and I for one wouldn't be happy for a bump in the back end/side of my car.
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There were 3 or 4 options - they chose one I didn't like. But its a step in the right direction.
This the one I liked.
(http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/images.jpg)
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Have to admit I would have chosen that one Pete.
Does anyone know when the work is to start?
Just so I can avoid it!!
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Monday, as in your original posted link. Giggle Giggle :))
Sorry, had too 8)
God help us !!
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I looked at Pete's preferred option and couldn't spot the artwork that the circle was drawing attention to.
Doh!! :-[ :-?
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:)) Oh yesss Fly I saw the cost of the sculpture and missed the date.
Anyway shurrup Mr Fly bynight we have enough with one forum gob shite :P
Back on topic, that's me on a diversion then, it won't make for smooth running traffic especially at peak times.
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I looked at Pete's preferred option and couldn't spot the artwork that the circle was drawing attention to.
Doh!! :-[ :-?
Out of the two which would be your preference JR?
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I take my life into my hands every morning driving round that roundabout and need my wits about me for when some idiot on the inside of the roundabout decides they are going up Lordsmill Street.
Do you REALLY think I'm going to take any notice of whats on the island?
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I had someone cut me up last week on that roundabout. They were in the middle lane and could have just gone round and onto the right hand lane up the bypass when lights changed - but no, just as I approached to their left they decided to cut over in front of me.
You could have a look when the lights are on red though?
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Horrible roundabout, having to look for lights, everybody else in the mirrors and now a sculpture for other people to look at! I think the bypass should link together with slip roads off to the roundabout, would decrease lorries and other traffic going around it, it wouldn't even need raising on a viaduct now they've moved the roundabout over. They could easily link a route up the old Hasland road to the bridge on the first turn off and put a slip road in for south bound travellers.
A lot of potential in that part of town as the busiest gateway that has been missed.
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It needs a flyover but that's too costly, or an outer ring road to completely bypass the town.
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Can they phase the traffic lights better while they are at it?
Now that would require common sense and planning so, I don't think so!
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Now that would require common sense and planning so, I don't think so!
What's the problem with them?
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What's the problem with them?
Coming towards roundabout from Lordsmill St, lights change and only allow four cars through before changing back to red! :(
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Nothing wrong with that, it evens traffic flow from the various directions and ensures no one has to wait long at the lights.
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Here's the latest status update on the subject by the DT on FB.
A reminder: be aware of delays on Hornsbridge roundabout in Chesterfield tomorrow - several lanes will be closed and the traffic lights will be turned off as work to install a sculpture on the island gets underway. The advice is to plan ahead and leave extra time for your journey.
My post:
Makes me laugh they can fence it all off and put portacabins on the roundabout on a Friday afternoon without blocking 1 lane.
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Come on folks, be brave, it's only a roundabout. You'll be fine. :)
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Should be fun tomorrow - why could they not postpone it for a week until the kids had broke up?
Nevertheless no traffic lights on the roundabout usually means drivers behave better in my opinion. They have to be cautious rather than running a red/amber light. Common sense takes over.
Lets ban traffic lights for fun/ experiment & see how we get on. I think driving standards would improve.....temporarily
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I think lane discipline is far worse on the next roundabout near where I work. I thought it might improve when the road markings were refurbished but it hasn't. Maybe i could invent a sat nav that you set using braille.
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I use both roundabouts most days. Horns bridge is the worst of the two for lane discipline by a mile. Been cut up numerous times by people on the inside being in the wrong lane heading into town and also by people swerving to avoid the queue for the hasland bypass to get on to the IRR.
I think the lane discipline at T**** has more to do with poor layout. Coming from Sainsbury's there's only one lane for straight on or right. No reason why the left lane couldn't be used to head for Whitt moor.
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Tesco, it's Tesco - you know, the big store next to the roundabout that is known as the Tesco Roundabout. Tesco, Tesco, Tesco :)) :)) :))
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Now Dave, steady on, you know that sort of language upsets Jon. ;)
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We saw the tail backs on the bypass as we crossed over the bridge this morning
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Got stuck tonight at 6.30pm on Jawbones Hill. Eventually got on to Baden Powell Road and round by the swimming baths.
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I diverted from Temple Normanton, Arkwright Arms, Inkersall, Troughbrook, Barrrow Hill, to get to New Whit.
7.4 miles. If I can be bothered, I'll post the milleage for the same journey around the A61 ring round later this week.
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Sailed round twice today. Less hassle than normal. Of course it does help that it was 5.45 and 14.45 not rush hour!!
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Avoid it at leading up to rush hour in the morning - queueing from the former Hunloke Arms into town. I was nearly half an hour late on the 51's (Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Danesmoor) yesterday, and another driver was over an hour late.
I don't know about evening rush hour - I've yet to experience that one.
I must confess though, hornsbridge roundabout seems better without traffic lights in my opinion.
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Traffic light's cause queues IMHO :-X
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Sailed round twice today!
Horns bridge flooded again then?!!!!! >;
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Taking daughter to Calow hospital tomorrow but going to find an alternative way to get across to Newbold aftewards.
As for collecting her later I'll probably go through Wingerworth and cut across the back way heading for West street in town
We heard on the news that the actual 'Tree' will be up in December - just right to stick lights on it :))
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Traffic light's cause queues IMHO :-X
I've said it before - drivers behave themselves better without traffic lights - no temptation to jump them & take more care seemimgly
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Jr, down hasland Rd, Spital Lane, Piccadilly, Brimington Rd, Sainsburys. No brainer ;)
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OC,
The other week the wife had a appointment at Calow and we left there about 5pm.went left into Calow along Brimm Common and down Brimm Road to Tesco and then up Peveril Road into Newbold.
It took about 15 mins.
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Thanks Umpire will probably take that route :)
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OC, up to Grassmoor, down Birkin Ln past the ponds, left, over the Bypass down Deepsick lane, left through Calow.
Might not be the best route, but it's a choice ;)
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I always go that way to the hospital Fly, it's after when I take her to Newbold I will be looking to change my route.
When I go to collect her I was thinking of Wingerworth and head for West Street in town
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Horns bridge flooded again then?!!!!! >;
Not til Saturday
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I'd like to know precisely how this £300,000 was made available. I read that it's from the European Regional Development Fund and Barratt Homes so the UK is paying millions into the EU and some of it is being paid out in sums of £100,000s for totally pointless arts projects on roundabouts. What about the Barratt Homes contribution? Match funding presumably or is it S106 money that is being frittered away?
What a stupid place for a sculpture, on a roundabout where no one can get close to it or walk round it - it should be named Burrow's Folly; a totally misguided application of public money. CBC should concentrate more on the problems facing the town, not tarting it up.
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Quite right Dave, why couldn't they have made it a feature in the Queens Park if they really wanted one
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If it's what I think it is then it's a scheme that's been around in chesterfield for years (probably 20) called percent for art. As part of any major planning application the council ask the developer for a 1% of the application sum to provide a piece of art for the site.
http://www.chesterfieldarttrail.co.uk/?id=2
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Barret homes gave towards the £300,000, the 'European Regional Development Fund' paid the rest. Cough, tax payer ::)
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I think you're right Jon - and I think our Brian had the artwork on Storforth Lane made when he built the new AW headquarters.
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Here you go, spot on Jon.
http://www.chesterfield.gov.uk/Chesterfield-Gateway-Enhancement-Project-1012.html# (http://www.chesterfield.gov.uk/Chesterfield-Gateway-Enhancement-Project-1012.html#)
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Just come across this story.
Council order ‘urgent review’ into Chesterfield roundabout work after hold-ups.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/council-order-urgent-review-into-chesterfield-roundabout-work-after-hold-ups-1-6740910 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/council-order-urgent-review-into-chesterfield-roundabout-work-after-hold-ups-1-6740910)
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Why wasn't it thought out prior to starting the work!
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Obviously didn't converse with the forum members first ::)
Or the people who actually drive in Chesterfield as per usual :o
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Typical
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Dare I say, typical council decision. They don't ask the populii !
Wow, big word. Did I spell it right :))
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I believe there was a vote on which to pick from a shortlist
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I believe there was a vote on which to pick from a shortlist
You missed my point Andy.
Why didn't someone ask me if I thought lanes needed closing on approach to the round about.
Instead of a H+S officer sat in an office somewhere making a decision.
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Because said officer has been to University and then day release college and studied to be a highways engineer so he knows best.
The fact that he lives in Belper and works in Matlock and thus NEVER drives round the Horns Bridge Island is immaterial, as far as he's concerned his 'engineering solution' fits all cases.
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The officer dealing with road closures is a life long Chesterfield resident
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if its who I think bet he didn't have a say in the actual closure or else he would have told them it was useless!!!