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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Pete on May 11, 2014, 01:14:25 PM
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There's been a debate surface recently in the light of the World Health Organisation report into bad air quality, in which Chesterfield was singled out.
Local MP Toby Perkins is featured on PeakFM arguing the case for a bypass to keep traffic out of our town centre - and I think it's a good idea.
The town has done well through the financial crises but the council seem locked into other vanity projects, how about stopping focusing on retail developments and concentrating on a much-needed plan to improve the basic health of our citizens?
http://bit.ly/1sASqt8 (http://bit.ly/1sASqt8)
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The inner relief road was supposed to do that but 30 years on the town has outgrown it.
In an ideal world you need a bypass from just above holymoorside to clear the chatsworth road traffic but how would you link it to horns bridge.
Then the brimington Staveley bypass would need building
But the money will never be spent
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Would just be another planning nightmare - and where would it go - who's houses would have to give way etc.
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Staveley / Brim by pass has been talked about since the 1950s (or earlier) it even showed proposed route on some old maps.
West of Chesterfield would be a bit tricky as it would involve greenfield sites and compulsory purchases whereas a lot of the A61 followed the old rail track.
Mentioning retail developments as a bit of a red herring as any investment there brings back income.
Link roads to the motorways suffer HGV congestion, maybe if the motorways hadn't been built most freight would have stuck with the trains and we wouldn't have lost all the lines
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>> Mentioning retail developments as a bit of a red herring as any investment there brings back income.
But what about the quality of life for Chesterfield citizens? You're starting to sound like a Tory.
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I'm sorry, I know I'm biased, but surely the proposed gas extraction site at Calow (lets face it, it won't stop there if it goes through) will only impact further in poor air quality across derbyshire & beyond
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You're probably right Scimitar, but if the World Health Organisation have us already singled out for pollution, I'd like to see something done about it - not just another development for shops offices and houses. That's just more people coming here and breathing in our filthy air.
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Only 2 ways for traffic problems to go. Up, or down. Monorail type roads in the air as suggested by Pete on FB earlier today.
Have a gander here, Up is dooable.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=world%27s+longest+bridge&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ncpvU4m2D4nD0QW-u4DgAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=641 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=world%27s+longest+bridge&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ncpvU4m2D4nD0QW-u4DgAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=641)
Or a tunnel system.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=world%27s+longest+bridge&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ncpvU4m2D4nD0QW-u4DgAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=641#q=world%27s+longest+tunnel&tbm=isch (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=world%27s+longest+bridge&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ncpvU4m2D4nD0QW-u4DgAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=641#q=world%27s+longest+tunnel&tbm=isch)
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Scarey - my 26 yr old daughter has just gone to hospital because her chest feels heavy & she's not breathing properly - she's gone with her boyfriend & my son. Awaiting news.....
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Hope everything's Ok mate :-X
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Scarey - my 26 yr old daughter has just gone to hospital because her chest feels heavy & she's not breathing properly - she's gone with her boyfriend & my son. Awaiting news.....
Hope everything goes okay Scimitar.
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Even if it is seperate from the bad air problem, polluted air isn't going to help her problem. Needs sorting out.
Best wishes from me too mate.
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Waiting for a blood test result
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There's been a debate surface recently in the light of the World Health Organisation report into bad air quality, in which Chesterfield was singled out.
Local MP Toby Perkins is featured on PeakFM arguing the case for a bypass to keep traffic out of our town centre - and I think it's a good idea.
The town has done well through the financial crises but the council seem locked into other vanity projects, how about stopping focusing on retail developments and concentrating on a much-needed plan to improve the basic health of our citizens?
http://bit.ly/1sASqt8 (http://bit.ly/1sASqt8)
To be fair I have not listened to Toby Perkins comments - only cos I can't at the moment.
Surely a ring road or a tunnel as well as the existing presence of the M1, are never going to contribute to clean air in derbyshire. It's unworkable as far as I can see
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West of Chesterfield would be a bit tricky as it would involve greenfield sites and compulsory purchases whereas a lot of the A61 followed the old rail track.
If it didn't go through the countryside it wouldn't be a bypass, it would be a relief road which is what the A61 is.
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The A61 takes traffic away from the old A61 route which went through the town so is effectively a by pass
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Maybe you should ask your MP what he means... ;)
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The A61 takes traffic away from the old A61 route which went through the town so is effectively a by pass
It relieves the traffic on part of the old A61 through the town but cuts the town in two thus is a relief road. A 'bypass', by definition, passes by a town or village.
If you think the A61 is effectively a by pass, you must also feel that Toby Perkins is wrong in saying that Chesterfield needs one!
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I see the council have replied to this news and states that our air quality has gone up over the last few years. How would that happen - I can't remember anything being implemented.
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Looks like there has been improvement: http://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/data/flat_files?site_id=CHS6 (http://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/data/flat_files?site_id=CHS6) but not according to my measuring equipment (my lungs).
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You'd have to assume that the closures/downsizing of the Carbo plant, coalite, Staveley chemicals etc will have had an impact on the air quality