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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fly on June 26, 2014, 08:22:55 PM

Title: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Fly on June 26, 2014, 08:22:55 PM
Chesterfield already do this. Which I don't agree with.
Matlock look to follow suit. Isn't this just another cash cow ?
http://www.matlockmercury.co.uk/news/local/residents-could-pay-to-park-in-matlock-1-6694029 (http://www.matlockmercury.co.uk/news/local/residents-could-pay-to-park-in-matlock-1-6694029)

Seriously need to mod our garden for off street parking.

(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/101_0072_zpse74fdae8.jpg) (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/Barry_Fly/media/101_0072_zpse74fdae8.jpg.html)

Our garden's the bottom left one. The one with the trimmed privet hedge  ::)
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Alsatian on June 26, 2014, 08:40:50 PM
Chesterfield already do this. Which I don't agree with.
Matlock look to follow suit. Isn't this just another cash cow ?
http://www.matlockmercury.co.uk/news/local/residents-could-pay-to-park-in-matlock-1-6694029 (http://www.matlockmercury.co.uk/news/local/residents-could-pay-to-park-in-matlock-1-6694029)

Seriously need to mod our garden for off street parking.

(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/101_0072_zpse74fdae8.jpg) (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/Barry_Fly/media/101_0072_zpse74fdae8.jpg.html)

Our garden's the bottom left one. The one with the trimmed privet hedge  ::)

Nowt I like better than a neatly trimmed bush Fly!  >;
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 26, 2014, 08:45:08 PM
Nowt I like better than a neatly trimmed bush Fly!  >;

Down Corgi DOWN  ;D
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Fly on June 26, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
No comment On either hedge, bush, or other stuff replies  :-X
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 26, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
Err hmm back on topic I think this was because of county offices staff/visitors parking on the streets in that area wasn't it.
Have read something in the Matlock Mercury about it
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 26, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
No comment On either hedge, bush, or other stuff replies  :-X

Miserable git  :))
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Fly on June 26, 2014, 08:56:19 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: simondjuk on June 26, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
Dont you pay already?  Isnt it called Council Tax and Vehicle Excise Duty?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2014, 09:08:30 PM
I have to pay to park on my street and tbh its a good thing. We always had folks parking on our street who didn't live here - making it residents parking keeps em away.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 26, 2014, 09:09:21 PM
To be honest it annoys me when people park on the road down our street and they have plenty of standing room on their front gardens.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Fly on June 26, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
Dont you pay already?  Isnt it called Council Tax and Vehicle Excise Duty?
Are you are missing something Simon, you don't pay to park outside your own house, on the road !
Some CDC residents have to.

@Pete, I'm saying resident parking should be free.
I appreciate you have somewhere to park outside your own house. But pay for it, against people visiting and trying to avoid parking costs. Cc for example !
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
>> @Pete, I'm saying resident parking should be free.

How can it be free? Who is going to organise and administer it? Who's going to pay to police it?

Everything has to be paid for.

The only discussion is about how much they charge.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: simondjuk on June 26, 2014, 09:45:53 PM
Ive got the wrong end of the stick.  My bad
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: therealjr on June 26, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
You could always pay to rent someone elses drive!!!
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 27, 2014, 06:26:01 AM
Nobody owns the piece of road in front of their house. Your choice if you want to pay for preferential parking though if you get the kerb dropped it's illegal from someone to come and obstruct it (have it done properly, it's on my patch !)
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on June 27, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
Your choice if you want to pay for preferential parking....

'preferential parking' - what's that?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 28, 2014, 09:16:01 AM
Residents' parking, where you do effectively have the sole right to park on the highway in the region of our house

About 30 years ago I had an issue where a bus stop was moved a couple of lamp posts to right outside our house effectively making it a no parking area. Had quite a battle on to get it moved one lamp post away where there were no houses. Won in the end with help from my local councillor. I since built a driveway and had the kerbs dropped.

Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on June 28, 2014, 11:33:24 AM
Prior to Chesterfield being divided into parking zones with charges for parking in each zone being introduced, residents could park freely anywhere in the town provided they didn't breech yellow line restrictions.

Charging for what was previously free isn't 'preferential'.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 28, 2014, 06:28:54 PM
Am I right in saying that regular visitors to chesterfield can buy a cheaper rate parking ticker for the car parking?
If so and it is reasonable why not buy one?
This would probably cut down the need for people to look for free parking spaces
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Pete on June 28, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
>> Charging for what was previously free isn't 'preferential'.

I live on a street near the town centre and so many people used to park there that I would often have to park on another street, especially when there was a footie match.

So when they introduced residents parking at £7 a year I thought that was the bargain of the year. :)
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 28, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
I suppose when you have had the inconvenience of not being able to park in front of your own home the yearly £7.00 is welcome.
It's an elderly relative who goes into town each week that has told me he pays for a yearly ticket to park and he was more than happy with the price.
We used to live near a Betting shop and had the same problems as you did Pete, it's very annoying when you have to unload a weeks shopping!!
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on June 29, 2014, 06:35:05 AM
>> Charging for what was previously free isn't 'preferential'.

I live on a street near the town centre and so many people used to park there that I would often have to park on another street, especially when there was a footie match.

So when they introduced residents parking at £7 a year I thought that was the bargain of the year. :)

I live near the college where students used to park half on the pavement both sides of the road, on bends, at junctions - everywhere, five days a week.

What do we now have? No daytime week day parking for anyone (residents included) outside 70 or so houses so it looks like a ghost town. Current resident parking charges are way above £7:

    Residents permit - £35.00 per annum for the first permit
    Additional residents permits - £50.00 per annum per permit (no limit)
    Annual visitor permit - £13.00 per annum (limited to 1 per property). This is a flexible permit for any visitor to your property, therefore it does not need to registered to a particular vehicle.
    Visitor day permit - £3.00 per day (scratch cards - minimum purchase of 5 (£15.00), with a maximum of 25 per annum per property)
    Business permit - £70.00 per annum (limited to 1 per business within the Zone)
    Registered charities are eligible to apply for 2 free permits per annum
    Disabled residents may be eligible for a free residents permit, subject to a mobility assessment by Derbyshire social services. Telephone 01629 537876 for an assessment

The only place my neighbours and I can park free is a stretch of Canal Wharf where vehicles have been vandalised - jumped on, lights and mirrors smashed, doors kicked.

We have to share our paid-for residents parking with public parking (up to 2 hours)  so if we go out during the day, we lose our space to students who come and go depending on the timing of their courses - there is no dedicated 'residents parking only' even though we pay £35 for this 'preferential' treatment.

I believe however, that thanks to the Cameron government <spit> residents are to be given the right of appeal against parking schemes that don't best serve them. As soon as that becomes law I'll be asking my 70 or so neighbours how they feel about the present scheme.

 
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 08:12:17 AM
Yep, that's what charges I have to pay.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 29, 2014, 09:23:47 AM
Pete I thought yours was £7.00 a year? Sorry I Must have read it wrong.

I have to agree with you Dave, it's a bit of a devil if people can't park in front of their own homes just because it's in a town/college it should be made free for residents and parking fines for others but it costs money for a warden?
Why should a person be penalised for where they live because that's what it is isn't it.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 29, 2014, 09:51:48 AM
Presume on some of the older terraced streets (how come there's never a street full of cars in Corrie?) there is no room for more than one car per house to park on the street. At around £1K for a dropped (and that's if you have room to park of the road) crossing the scheme doesn't sound bad value
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Stuart on June 29, 2014, 10:06:59 AM
If it's only £7 then I might welcome it where I am - Sheffield Road end of Stand Road. There's plenty of parking on Sheff Rd itself and a free, all-day car park opposite me, but people still park outside the houses there.

My only reservations are 1) that, elsewhere, bits of road near junctions such as mine have this "permit holder or one hour" type of sign over them, thus allowing Joe Public to park, and 2) the scheme doesn't apply on Sundays, when the kids' football on the park brings in far more cars than the car park can cope with and I end up having to hump heavy bags of shopping some distance to my house.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Pete on June 29, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
As I said, £7 was brilliant, £14 for me and my wife's cars - but when they increased the fee to £85 I thought it outrageous - essentially a 600% increase!
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Stuart on June 29, 2014, 12:55:52 PM
£85? They can do one. They might as well put a parking meter outside your house, and have done with it.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: mycul on June 29, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
'Nobody owns the piece of road in front of their house. '
Slacker!!!!!! as a Council Officer and a Councilor please read the law.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 29, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
The only thing I know about that mycul was the first house we bought was on an un-adopted road.
We were told back then that we could all chip in and pay top have it done as the road in front of the houses was ours?
That was in the 70's
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 29, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
ok I wasn't thinking about unadopted roads
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on June 29, 2014, 09:07:04 PM
Not wanting to put you on the spot Slacker but have you any idea what the difference would be  between un-adopted road and one which has had tarmac on?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 30, 2014, 06:21:07 AM
Nothing to do with whether it's got tarmac on it's whether councils have adopted them or not. Some (eg old Coal Board roads, back roads behind houses)) never get adopted and maintenance responsibility falls to adjacent property owners.
Usually responsibility on a new estate transfers to County Council once they are approved as suitable standard but I've known this process go on ten years or more with a lot of remedial work by the developers
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on June 30, 2014, 06:45:22 AM
As I said, £7 was brilliant, £14 for me and my wife's cars - but when they increased the fee to £85 I thought it outrageous - essentially a 600% increase!

We went straight from no charge to £35 a year. I went to county hall and had a meeting with the council officers concerned who told me that residents' parking on the estate roads wasn't possible because they were too narrow and emergency vehicles wouldn't be able to get past - yet they allow it at weekends!!

Four trainee paramedics live next door to us. They each have a car because they work different shifts and their training is at different places however they all attend lectures locally which is why they live there. Between them they pay £185 a year - an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 30, 2014, 01:40:14 PM
On the other hand they will be taking 4 places up including in front of someone else's house. Most redsident parking schemes are near the town centre so they save on paying to park for town at (what we usually pay) £2.50 a time
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on June 30, 2014, 03:00:34 PM
No they're not. There is no parking at all our side of the street and no houses on the opposite side where parking is allowed.
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on June 30, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
Pay parking?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: therealjr on June 30, 2014, 09:40:47 PM

Most redsident parking schemes are near the town centre so they save on paying to park for town at (what we usually pay) £2.50 a time
Unless of course you have a permit provided at the council tax payers expense!!
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Big Dave on July 01, 2014, 06:25:02 AM
Pay parking?

What do you mean, 'pay parking'?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on July 01, 2014, 06:51:46 AM
Unless of course you have a permit provided at the council tax payers expense!!
Which is of course for meetings at the town hall
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on July 01, 2014, 06:53:43 AM
What do you mean, 'pay parking'?

A resident parking scheme on the wrong side of the road?
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: therealjr on July 01, 2014, 01:12:38 PM

Which is of course for meetings at the town hall

Of course and you've never nipped in to pick up your mail and then strolled into town have you!!!
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Slacker on July 01, 2014, 05:48:17 PM
oops, just reminded me forgot to check pigeon hole when I was in today
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on July 01, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
oops, just reminded me forgot to check pigeon hole when I was in today

Does that mean you had parked up and wandered down town then Slacker  :))
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Fly on July 01, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
Even worse. Parked up and forgot why LOL  ;)
Title: Re: Pay to park on your own street !
Post by: Old Cruser on July 01, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
Even worse. Parked up and forgot why LOL  ;)

Sounds like me  :))