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Title: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 05, 2020, 02:49:02 PM
We have it in the UK and have to get on with it.

Tesco Clay Cross today was busy - 'like Christmas' staff were saying.

Most of the shelving was stocked but the soap had gone!!

Looks like we have panic buying in our midst.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 05, 2020, 08:28:51 PM
Coronavirus..When I first heard about this, the word containment was already outdated. To contain any virus {especially at source} is a near impossibility, especially with the vast "worldwide" movement of people in today's hurly burly world.

Self confinement is also not going to work too well. Watching yesterdays P.M.Q's when they talked about having time off work to for self confinement they made it sound so easy, but you can bet your bottom dollar, in many cases, if you rang your boss up and said you weren't coming in for a fortnight chances are you would be looking for another job. What about emergency service staff that HAVE to go because of the already chronic shortage of staff in their fields.

They also keep talking about constantly keeping surfaces clean, but what about huge areas of "office" space {yes even hospitals} where possibly the cleaning crews are brought in by agencies, where they work on tight budgets and have been known to use the cheapest of materials to do their jobs and speed is of the essence which ultimately leads to corner cutting in order for the agency to make as much money as possible from the cheapest outlay, I'm afraid many agencies like this would just add to the problem.
Same with public transport, I wonder how many times those bus train or tram seats get a good deep cleansing or the whole vehicle for that matter. My mother used to refer to cleaning like this as giving whatever it was "A quick lick and a promise".

One thing that is sadly missing nowadays.... when we were small and had a cold or whatever we used an old "snot rag" supplied by mum to wipe our noses on, then..
WE THREW THEM ON THE FIRE!!
We didn't let them sit festering in litter bins for hours on end.
 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Tarzan on March 05, 2020, 11:11:12 PM
We have it in the UK and have to get on with it.

Tesco Clay Cross today was busy - 'like Christmas' staff were saying.

Most of the shelving was stocked but the soap had gone!!

Looks like we have panic buying in our midst.

Looks like some people have only just discovered soap  :))
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 06, 2020, 09:19:08 AM
Looks like some people have only just discovered soap  :))

Yep !! From what the cashier told me to buy antibacterial on line is costing a lot of money - £70.00 for 3 small bottles!!

Sorastro - I agree with what you say, it's almost impossible to keep this at bay - we can wash our hands, and after use our mobiles with the same hands we used before washing them!
We are booked for a two nights stay in York and a trip on a steam train to Scotland later this month for hubby's 70th. Will it happen?
Watch this space!!
The UK has now had it's first death from this Virus, there will probably be a few more!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 18, 2020, 10:50:28 AM
Just heard from my daughter who's seen it somewhere that obviously due to the outbreak....

As from Monday 23rd March Stagecoach will be running a Sunday service only.

Maybe Scimitar could confirm this?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 18, 2020, 12:07:55 PM
Just heard from my daughter who's seen it somewhere that obviously due to the outbreak....

As from Monday 23rd March Stagecoach will be running a Sunday service only.

Maybe Scimitar could confirm this?

I've seen him around on facebook just now so will check.
Meanwhile we are in isolation and I need to bring my daughter here to stay with us as she is high risk if she gets it as well.
It's going to be a tough few months!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 18, 2020, 12:55:56 PM
I've seen him around on facebook just now so will check.
Meanwhile we are in isolation and I need to bring my daughter here to stay with us as she is high risk if she gets it as well.
It's going to be a tough few months!!

My sisters care home is in lockdown for the next 12 weeks, unfortunately, due her limited mental capacity, she is finding it very difficult to accept and comprehend.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 18, 2020, 03:39:16 PM
The young woman I give short breaks too was struggling and stressed last weekend. Autistic  people will struggle as well with this major upheaval.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Scimitar on March 19, 2020, 11:30:44 PM
Just heard from my daughter who's seen it somewhere that obviously due to the outbreak....

As from Monday 23rd March Stagecoach will be running a Sunday service only.

Maybe Scimitar could confirm this?
No- it will be a Saturday Service
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 20, 2020, 11:57:43 AM
 :)) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 20, 2020, 01:37:56 PM
OUCH!!!

Anyway, why are people panic buying and stockpiling??.....Because that's what people do, tell them not to do something and it's the first thing they do.
I was guilty of that once, well if you could call it stockpiling, in the mid seventies there was a "rumour" going round there was a shortage of sugar {remember that?} that's when I worked for a local well known bakery as a salesman and having two small kids in those days plus I had two heaped teaspoons of sugar in my tea. I gave most of my customers {shop keepers} a sob story and they kept me supplied with bags of sugar. We didn't have tons of the stuff but enough to pass quite a bit onto friends and family especially those with kids.
 
I'm the first to admit that since then I have always had stock of the essentials, especially those with long {or no} sell by dates, bog roll, kitchen roll, bleach/cleaning stuff, toothpaste, tinned stuff, freezer stuff, and funnily enough just a one pound bag of sugar lasts us a year now. This is done mainly due to the fact when I worked my missus could shop without lugging heavy cumbersome items back from town on the bus, as she doesn't drive.

When it comes to things like this the vast majority of shoppers go into "selfish" mode, and the rest find themselves having to follow suit or run the risk of not getting what they want.
All shops should be made to put a limit on ANY item being bought irrespective of shortages or not.



Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: kromercap on March 21, 2020, 07:31:58 PM
Trust me, the worst hasn't even started yet.

Just wait until the Jehovah's Witnesses realise everyone is stuck at home... ::)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 21, 2020, 09:17:14 PM
We are now in isolation for 12 weeks. So is my daughter.
Tesco sent out emails advising that Stores would be open for OAP's and vulnerable people on Monday Wednesday and Friday 9 - 10.
A friend of mine went only to find the shelves were empty -----
That didn't work did it!

We have the boxed board games out to pass the time as quite frankly TV and the Laptop would  not be  the best thing to pass the time!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 22, 2020, 12:55:36 AM
Ham Radio. It's times like this I'm glad I got my licence (y)

73's M6YIF  ;)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on March 22, 2020, 09:32:37 PM
From what I hear The Peak District has been heaving today.Car parks full and around Monsall Dale people in groups  strolling about.I also saw a photo of Matlock Bath with loads of Motor Cyclists stood around.I despair.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: lipstick79 on March 22, 2020, 11:48:33 PM
Everybody will probably get it, covID-19
Just DON`T pass it ON
Wash UR hands - limit the spread
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 23, 2020, 09:20:01 AM
I have seen those as well. Unfortunately some don't think this is serious - and if they get it it may not be, but they may pass it onto someone who could lose their life.
A pub in Clay Cross decided to have a 'back door' for some to use. Is drink so important? If not and it's the socialising then there are other means.

We are heading for a lockdown!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 23, 2020, 11:39:47 AM
From what I hear The Peak District has been heaving today.Car parks full and around Monsall Dale people in groups  strolling about.I also saw a photo of Matlock Bath with loads of Motor Cyclists stood around.I despair.


What's the point in telling people off for congregating round country parks and the seaside when they are packed like sardines in supermarkets.
If the authorities tell you to do something the vast majority will do what they like anyway. I have said from day one sooner or later they are going to have to declare Marshall law and with that comes curfew. If anyone is out and about without good reason start prodding them with  bayonets till they go home.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. You might say we are on a war footing but it's for the common good. For those who say the government is not doing enough concerning people self isolating, that may be true but short of a total ban on movement there's not much more that could be done other than the above, it's down to common sense.

You will always get the "No ones going to tell me what to do" brigade, due to their obvious low I.Q. they firmly believe it won't happen to them, maybe not, maybe they will come out of this unscathed but going out and about unnecessarily is not helping the rest.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 23, 2020, 05:32:20 PM
I've been out and about most days.
BUT, i've been sticking to the social distancing and avoiding popular destinations.
Quick pic from todays walk. The old Chesterfield to Clowne train line. Photo of Boughton Lane bridge.

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: hifimad on March 24, 2020, 12:50:26 AM
Trust me, the worst hasn't even started yet.

Just wait until the Jehovah's Witnesses realise everyone is stuck at home... ::)
many years ago i told the jehova witnesses visiting us that we were commited diabolists, and for some unfathomable reason they have chose not to visit us since. >;
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: lipstick79 on March 24, 2020, 10:42:40 PM
What IS the world actually waiting/hoping 4 regarding the virus ?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 24, 2020, 10:47:23 PM
Never fancied being in the armed forces. I went to the pit,
I always said I'd do my bit if my country needed me though.
So i've signed up to be an NHS volunteer.
Bring it on . . . . .

Quote
What IS the world actually waiting/hoping 4 regarding the virus ?
4 it to be gone with as little loss of life as possible!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 26, 2020, 09:16:24 AM
What IS the world actually waiting/hoping 4 regarding the virus ?

Right from the start of the news coming in from China it was obvious there was something 'different' about this virus - what are they not telling us I asked hubby. It seemed an awful lot of fuss for a virus.

Now we know!
It is highly contagious and can mean many need hospital treatment - some die.
We know that now.

From what I have read it is originally a virus which only animals got - now mutated in humans. The reason it is difficult to find an injection for.

I'm not a Boris fan and yes I think he might have been a bit slow in his actions,  but, any PM from any party faced with this wouldn't get it all right. It's new and a first time for us and others. I suspect he held off not only because of Scientific advice but also because he realised just how hard this was going to be for people who in general are sociable beings.
What did annoy me and I switched it off was Jeremy Corbyn arguing the toss yesterday - could he have done any better?? Would he have made mistakes??
He would!


We need to do as the Government says and not be so stupid as some have shown themselves to be.

Hard times folks
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 26, 2020, 08:08:01 PM
From what I gathered O.C. it originated from a Chinese market. It was a market they call a wet market, people come from miles around and bring in live animals to buy and sell and it all supposedly started with a bat. You've all probably seen on travel shows being shown round similar markets like in Asia, live animals on one stall then street food for sale on the next.

The Chinese say they now have a handle on it but China has always been a secretive nation, they only tell you what they want you to know, like....
These markets have been in existence for many years, have they been stopped?
You only appear to be getting the "good" news from large Chinese cities, what about the countryside? China is a very very large country. Will they be ABLE to put a stop to these markets all over China if not whats to stop it happening again.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 28, 2020, 01:04:38 PM
No- it will be a Saturday Service


From what I saw yesterday Sunday service would be more practical... me and the wife went to the local shop yesterday. We went the long way round basically to get some fresh air, during our "walkabout" we were passed by 3 buses and out of those, 2 were riding empty.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 28, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
On the news this morning... Novak Djokovic and his wife are donating one million euro's to buy much needed medical equipment in Serbia.

Our overpaid footballers seem to be very quiet, now I'm not dropping hints here {yes I am} it's their money they can do what they like with it.
I think this is the time people like those helped put a little back, lets face it they are not exactly going to starve to death if they donate say a weeks wage {or 50%...10% even}.

It would be nice to see them do something in these trying times. I wonder how many have become volunteers.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 28, 2020, 08:17:20 PM
On the news this morning... Novak Djokovic and his wife are donating one million euro's to buy much needed medical equipment in Serbia.

Our overpaid footballers seem to be very quiet, now I'm not dropping hints here {yes I am} it's their money they can do what they like with it.
I think this is the time people like those helped put a little back, lets face it they are not exactly going to starve to death if they donate say a weeks wage {or 50%...10% even}.

It would be nice to see them do something in these trying times. I wonder how many have become volunteers.

What he said.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 29, 2020, 08:55:16 AM
Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock and Chris Whitty all have all tested positive and are now self isolating.

Now a cynical person {never!!} would swear that these three could be self isolating just to keep out of the way, especially when it comes to facing the press on a daily basis and being asked awkward questions. It just seems too much of a coincidence that the 3 "top" men have suddenly developed the symptoms basically at the same moment, and who is there to argue?
If it is true then they didn't heed their own advice which makes it even worse.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 29, 2020, 09:23:20 AM
Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock and Chris Whitty all have all tested positive and are now self isolating.

Now a cynical person {never!!} would swear that these three could be self isolating just to keep out of the way, especially when it comes to facing the press on a daily basis and being asked awkward questions. It just seems too much of a coincidence that the 3 "top" men have suddenly developed the symptoms basically at the same moment, and who is there to argue?
If it is true then they didn't heed their own advice which makes it even worse.

Food for thought there Sorastro!!
I also agree with the overpaid footballers suggestion the problem is they will probably be conducting their lifestyle in an overpaid way and won't have much to spare!!

Watching the news it truly is an awful virus for those who end up in hospital and the NHS Staff, how demoralising for them to look after patients and continually see them die, depression must set in for these front line people.

People are scared and although not out and about one of my main jobs has been long telephone conversations with residents trying to calm them down.
Bored - I haven't had the time!!
   
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 29, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
If it is true then they didn't heed their own advice which makes it even worse.

Well, when I was watching a programme from parliament the Tory front benches certainly weren't sitting 2 metres apart and, at the end of the broadcast, they were all huddling around the speaker!

Definitely a case of not practising what you preach!  :-?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 30, 2020, 11:15:15 AM
We went shopping yesterday morning and to and from the supermarket I bet we didn't see more than two dozen vehicles.

Now, bearing in mind the obvious turmoil the country is in, I would have thought that given the movement of people is at an all time low, wouldn't it be a good time to start "tidying" the place up a bit, for example:-

Send council workers out to start filling in the pot holes, replacing/realigning road signs, re painting lines on the roads etc. I don't mean send gangs of them out, one bloke with a flatbed transit could do most of these chores on his own. Take last week a council worker sitting on a ride on mower cutting the grass outside our house {hardly vital} why couldn't he be given a van and sent out to do any of the above.
OR
Send the police out to scour the estates for badly parked vehicles and illegal motors and start summonsing the offenders. They could also make sure that offenders who have been found guilty and been given Community service to do are actually doing it There are far too many police cars tootling up and down our motorways as it is, parked on the slip roads "Stobart spotting", many of them could be utilised on the above. 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 01, 2020, 07:45:11 AM
On the news this morning... Novak Djokovic and his wife are donating one million euro's to buy much needed medical equipment in Serbia.

Our overpaid footballers seem to be very quiet, now I'm not dropping hints here {yes I am} it's their money they can do what they like with it.
I think this is the time people like those helped put a little back, lets face it they are not exactly going to starve to death if they donate say a weeks wage {or 50%...10% even}.

It would be nice to see them do something in these trying times. I wonder how many have become volunteers.


Just seen on the news this morning. Football clubs are laying off none playing staff as they can't afford to pay them, at the same time the players are still receiving full wages.

Also question of the week:-
The Nightingale hospital is about to open, this is a thousand bed temporary hospital, for years the outcry has been about the lack of beds in the N.H.S. so where has all these "new" beds suddenly appeared from?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 03, 2020, 02:34:02 PM
Watched Matt Hancock on Question time last night {8p.m.-9p.m.} and they got on about the logistical challenge of getting a warehouse full of P.P.E. equipment out to the front line staff and he said it was basically in the hands of the army {obviously logistical corp.}
He mentioned the man in charge, Brigadier Phil Prosser.
I know nothing about the man except he is {apparently} very good at what the army asks him to do, moving tanks from Turkey to Timbuktu, saluting marching squaddies, shifting ammunition that sort of thing, but I personally think this job requires at bit more expertise  and manpower that the army can't provide, as the army only thinks 2 dimensionally.

Logistics....Eddie Stobart knows logistics, T.N.T., Tuffnels, D.H.L. et. al. they all have a proven logistical records. All that needs to be done is send in Trunkers maybe once a week to the "Large warehouse in the North East that's full of the equipment" mentioned by the Health minister, to collect the P.P.E. equipment and the depots delivery vans can have the stuff out and delivered the next day. I'm sure that someone who has ordered a new kettle from the "catalogue" won't mind waiting an extra day for delivery so that the priority equipment can get out.

It's common sense, you don't need a Brigadier, these delivery companies cover at least 95% of the country DAILY, the army can't.


 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 05, 2020, 12:14:52 PM
So the major football clubs are in dire straits {financially} already eh?

All I can say is "Oh dear what a disappointment". As I said, now's the time to start putting things in order and, more importantly,putting things into perspective.
These footballers have been spoiled rotten and now it's come back to bite these clubs on the bum. Take for example if I were in my early twenties, really good at football and a club spotted me and said "play for us and we will give you £2000 a week" I would be doing back somersaults all the way home, that to me would be like winning the pools!! er lottery {do people still do the pools??} instead of these eye watering sums these players command each week, mainly because I, and many like me, have been brought up to REALLY know what it's like to go without and we live accordingly.
When this pandemic is over lets start paying out realistic sums in wages, if they moan sack 'em... let them go abroad to play or better still sign on and get dole money for a couple of months till they find a "proper" job. Then just imagine going to watch Manchester United play and only paying £2:50p to get in, and the players car park full of Skodas and Ford Focuses 

The only casualties in this would be the likes of.... Gucci...Rolex....Lamborghini.... but there will still be plenty of money out there to keep them in business.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 05, 2020, 02:19:06 PM
{do people still do the pools??} i

I bet Umpire wishes they still did!  :))
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on April 05, 2020, 10:01:35 PM
According to my paper DE Gea the Man United goalkeeper is on £375.000 per week.Obscene.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 06, 2020, 10:45:08 AM
Just read this:-
During the SARS outbreak of 2003 in Britain there were no deaths. This was mainly due to relentless testing of people, tracing the people they had been in contact with and isolation.
Also what was then was discovered is that over 70% of new infectious diseases originate from animals {as did SARS} be they tame or wild.
SARS came about because of unhealthy practices in the movement and slaughtering of some animals for food, the global trade in "exotic" pets etc and it appears to be continuing to this day.


This seems to be what is not happening this time, irrespective of what's happening now our government was slow on the uptake. They are playing catch up and to date over 5000 have lost their lives.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 06, 2020, 12:16:18 PM
We haven't been in a shop for three weeks.
Order provisions on line and family top up what we can't get from the delivery.

As for the football clubs it's time they got back down to earth! Too fond of themselves and charging/ paying what they do it's ridiculous.

I haven't had time to be bored. I cancelled all daughters care and I am supporting her myself, I watch the news up dates once a day and until evening the TV is OFF.

We have a different routine which helps, and have plenty of board games to play plus keeping in touch with family, friends and those who are lonely and frightened.

I applaud everyone single person who is going out to work. One of my daughters friends works in a supermarket and has been so afraid and upset - they all deserve a round of applause and when this is over I hope that our NHS is put back on it's feet!!

My interest in hedgehogs is also a distraction - I have many visiting my garden and my Trial Cam allows me to watch their nightly antics!
Currently I am awaiting my first baby one of the 11 I rescued last year to be returned.

We are in a mess no doubting that and so are other countries. We just need to stay in as much as  possible and scimitar - take care young man!!
The nesting box is ready!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on April 06, 2020, 09:44:38 PM
Poor old Boris. I wish him all the best.
Still think he's a buffoon mind  :D
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 10, 2020, 10:27:31 AM

From what I saw yesterday Sunday service would be more practical... me and the wife went to the local shop yesterday. We went the long way round basically to get some fresh air, during our "walkabout" we were passed by 3 buses and out of those, 2 were riding empty.


Went to town last Friday.. stood at the bus stop for half an hour, a woman came to the bus stop and told us the reason for our wait was that as of that Monday they were running Sunday services only.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 10, 2020, 11:12:38 AM
Now I know we are all in this together! diseases know no boundaries, old or young, rich or poor, famous or even infamous, BUT....

Is it really necessary for news channels to focus on individuals just because of their status.
We know only too well that the Prime Minister is in hospital with the virus {and hopefully will make a full recovery} but do we need a blow by blow account every waking moment of every day just because of who he is. To date over 5000 have died in this country with the virus, that means that 99:9% of the victims hardly got a mention. Prince Charles THOUGHT he might have it so is self isolating. The Queen did the same, she went into self isolation {just her and 300 staff} If anything happened to those two {heaven forbid} the weeping and wailing across the land would be deafening, yet hardly an utterance over the doctors and other medical staff that have already succumbed just by doing their jobs. 

But more importantly what of the soap "stars" who have been laid off through the virus. Equity, the actors union, say "Many actors and workers on these productions are not well paid". So while filming is suspended they are pushing the government to pay more than the governments benchmark of approx 80% of wages, up to a maximum of £2500 per month per actor.
Most of the big names in the soaps/ dramas are on between £150,000 and £220,000 per year, some lesser known such as bit part and extra's may be on between £400 to £2000 per episode, most contracts guarantee a minimum number of episodes per year this could be from 30 episodes to as much as 100 episodes, depending on popularity and or story line, plus they get repeat fees.
Just like the footballers they are hardly likely to end up in a cardboard box under the viaduct, and when you get people like Rooney asking why footballers are singled out for a wage reduction and are being "picked on" all I can say it's a good job you only need to use your feet in football.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on April 10, 2020, 11:19:09 AM
No-one is supposed to leave their home except for essential supplies, medicine, medical help or exercise. 
So why are B&Q still doing click & collect?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 10, 2020, 12:29:31 PM
Now I know we are all in this together! diseases know no boundaries, old or young, rich or poor, famous or even infamous, BUT....

Is it really necessary for news channels to focus on individuals just because of their status.
We know only too well that the Prime Minister is in hospital with the virus {and hopefully will make a full recovery} but do we need a blow by blow account every waking moment of every day just because of who he is. To date over 5000 have died in this country with the virus, that means that 99:9% of the victims hardly got a mention. Prince Charles THOUGHT he might have it so is self isolating. The Queen did the same, she went into self isolation {just her and 300 staff} If anything happened to those two {heaven forbid} the weeping and wailing across the land would be deafening, yet hardly an utterance over the doctors and other medical staff that have already succumbed just by doing their jobs. 

But more importantly what of the soap "stars" who have been laid off through the virus. Equity, the actors union, say "Many actors and workers on these productions are not well paid". So while filming is suspended they are pushing the government to pay more than the governments benchmark of approx 80% of wages, up to a maximum of £2500 per month per actor.
Most of the big names in the soaps/ dramas are on between £150,000 and £220,000 per year, some lesser known such as bit part and extra's may be on between £400 to £2000 per episode, most contracts guarantee a minimum number of episodes per year this could be from 30 episodes to as much as 100 episodes, depending on popularity and or story line, plus they get repeat fees.
Just like the footballers they are hardly likely to end up in a cardboard box under the viaduct, and when you get people like Rooney asking why footballers are singled out for a wage reduction and are being "picked on" all I can say it's a good job you only need to use your feet in football.

My thoughts entirely Sorastro!  (y)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 10, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
No-one is supposed to leave their home except for essential supplies, medicine, medical help or exercise. 
So why are B&Q still doing click & collect?

Ideally I imagine it should be for things like a new kitchen tap if one has broken and water is spurting out, or a fuse (remember those?!) blows and you don't have a replacement. No doubt some morons will still be ordering non essential items (garden bench, bathroom cabinet etc etc).
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 10, 2020, 01:21:26 PM
Ideally I imagine it should be for things like a new kitchen tap if one has broken and water is spurting out, or a fuse (remember those?!) blows and you don't have a replacement. No doubt some morons will still be ordering non essential items (garden bench, bathroom cabinet etc etc).

Spot on Alsatian.... although 90% of what's on offer at B&Q, and the rest of the D.I.Y'ers, the others are "essential materials".
 It's when you get places like Sports Direct that won't close and Holland and Barratt's whose staff are PLEADING with them to close because the management insist their stores are essential.

What has to happen {when it's finally over} is we MUST patronise our local businesses that have kept us "topped up". We MUST call in our local more, in short, after this, immediately start putting money over the bars/counters to help get them on. I for one only call in our local shop to put the lottery on or buy a paper, this will change as it reminded me of the bad snow we had in 2010. The traffic was at a standstill for days, no one could get out let alone to supermarkets so our corner shop was inundated with shoppers, most had never set foot in the shop before and as fast as he filled the shelves they were being emptied {siege mentality again} and as soon as the bad weather went all his "customers" melted back into the background only to re appear over the past month or so. I was one of the guilty ones then but realising what a mess I could have been in had he not kept us all supplied, when this is over I will make the effort to purchase more in that shop, same with our local W.M.club {if it ever does re open, it was on it's uppers before all this} 
I'm not saying I will only ever shop at that store plus I've no intention of becoming an alkie' but businesses will need an immediate injection of funds, once re opened or after, if they are to recover from this.

I will make sure I do my bit...............
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on April 10, 2020, 03:57:09 PM
Ideally I imagine it should be for things like a new kitchen tap if one has broken and water is spurting out, or a fuse (remember those?!) blows and you don't have a replacement.
Yes, you're right.  I had only thought of the non-essential stuff that I want from them.  It's not available on home delivery, so I'm not buying it.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 14, 2020, 02:52:01 PM
One of the first places to be shut when it "hit" was {and I still can't figure out why} Council refuse sites. This coincides with the suspension of our green bin {garden waste} collections till further notice which obviously doesn't help.

Saw on the news this morning "An upsurge in fly tipping because of the refuse site closures".
You really don't have to be a boffin to have worked THAT out.

Same with the P.P.E that was stolen in Salford, what are they going to do with it? they can't flog it in the local, for two obvious reasons, the
 main one being the local's shut. They can't, even if their consciences are pricking them, leave it somewhere and tip off the authorities to retrieve it because technically the consignment runs the risk of being contaminated so cannot be used.

I said on an earlier post, Britain needs now to get straightened out, the phrase being used is "The New Normal".  The authorities are in a position now they have not been in since the second world war namely they have the WHOLE countries attention.
SO MAKE GOOD USE OF IT!!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 14, 2020, 06:55:51 PM
This is what we've been doing to amuse ourselves whilst in lockdown!

1000 pieces and took us around a work, it was quite a lot harder than a 'scenic' puzzle. It's interesting looking at all the old products.

Two images showing portrait and landscape view (and its put them both in the same orientation!)


Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 14, 2020, 09:01:35 PM
This is what we've been doing to amuse ourselves whilst in lockdown!

1000 pieces and took us around a work, it was quite a lot harder than a 'scenic' puzzle. It's interesting looking at all the old products.

Two images showing portrait and landscape view (and its put them both in the same orientation!)

And now it's put them how I intended???

Also it took around a week, not work (fat fingers vs small keys!)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on April 14, 2020, 09:21:27 PM
My daughter has got  it but the only sympton is a cough.She has been told by work to get tested but is in a difficult situation.The testing station is 7 miles away from where she lives in Nottingham.She does not drive  and cannot go by taxi and obviously all her friends do not want to risk it and she lives on her own.She has been in isolation for  seven days so hopefully she might get rid of the cough soon.
Her last hope is the taxi firm who she uses are going  let her know tomorrow whether anybody  will take her.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on April 14, 2020, 10:11:45 PM
Quote
And now it's put them how I intended???

So i'm an 'it' now am I ?  :P

Fingers crossed for your daughter Umpire  :(
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 15, 2020, 07:37:14 AM
So i'm an 'it' now am I ?  :P

Fingers crossed for your daughter Umpire  :(

Thanks Fly, I thought it was either a gremlin or my stupidity!

Umpire, I' too have got my fingers croeed.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on April 15, 2020, 03:54:17 PM
One of the first places to be shut when it "hit" was {and I still can't figure out why} Council refuse sites. This coincides with the suspension of our green bin {garden waste} collections till further notice which obviously doesn't help.
Closure of refuse sites was announced on CBC website 24th March, but I can't find any mention of green bin collections being suspended, and ours was collected on 8th April.  Where have you got this from please?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 17, 2020, 11:28:04 AM
One of the first places to be shut when it "hit" was {and I still can't figure out why} Council refuse sites. This coincides with the suspension of our green bin {garden waste} collections till further notice which obviously doesn't help.

Saw on the news this morning "An upsurge in fly tipping because of the refuse site closures".
You really don't have to be a boffin to have worked THAT out


Saw on the news THIS morning "Calls for councils to re open refuse sites due to increased fly tipping".
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 18, 2020, 10:03:10 AM
Watched Matt Hancock on Question time last night {8p.m.-9p.m.} and they got on about the logistical challenge of getting a warehouse full of P.P.E. equipment out to the front line staff and he said it was basically in the hands of the army {obviously logistical corp.}
He mentioned the man in charge, Brigadier Phil Prosser

 All that needs to be done is send in Trunkers maybe once a week to the "Large warehouse in the North East that's full of the equipment" mentioned by the Health minister, to collect the P.P.E. equipment and the depots delivery vans can have the stuff out and delivered the next day.


Medical staff constantly complaining of shortage of P.P.E. equipment, so much so a plane full of boxes of P.P.E. equipment has just flown in from China.

Why Matt Hancock is still collecting a wage beggars belief...this is the kind of thinking that's costing lives.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 19, 2020, 10:57:46 AM

Medical staff constantly complaining of shortage of P.P.E. equipment, so much so a plane full of boxes of P.P.E. equipment has just flown in from China.

Why Matt Hancock is still collecting a wage beggars belief...this is the kind of thinking that's costing lives.


FINALLY.......the government is realising they have "conned" the public into believing they knew what they were doing and have actually asked a [proper?] logistics firm to step in, not before time.
Clipper Logistics. Having said that Clipper is only a bulk distributor {obviously what's needed} but a quick look and they don't seem to have any depots in the south of England, so even I know they will need some help.
Then again anything is better than what was attempted previously.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 19, 2020, 03:09:37 PM
A delivery of PPE, including much needed gowns, should have arrived from Turkey today, but has for some reason been delayed.

I did hear a snatch of a news item earlier today where the government had ignored the impending sweep of Coronavirus for five weeks, which would have given them time to prepare themselves a bit better than they have done.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 19, 2020, 08:19:40 PM
A delivery of PPE, including much needed gowns, should have arrived from Turkey today, but has for some reason been delayed.

I did hear a snatch of a news item earlier today where the government had ignored the impending sweep of Coronavirus for five weeks, which would have given them time to prepare themselves a bit better than they have done.


The government Alsatian did what they always do whenever any "crisis" hits, they consult the bean counters FIRST.
Just like the C.E.O. of any major corporation the reaction is, "How can we get through this with the minimum financial loss". The government over the years, on many things, have been accused of " knee jerk reactions", but in this case a knee jerk reaction to the ensuing Coronavirus catastrophe was DEFINITELY needed, as they are now finding out to their cost {or rather our cost}

Another thing that's got my goat:- quotes in today's Mirror......
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going.....where there was fear she has brought courage....with reassuring calmness she has lifted our spirits..... leading from the front..... she has united the country once more...... this vomit inducing bilge goes on for nearly 2 pages".

No prizes for guessing who they're on about, I must have missed something!




 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on April 19, 2020, 09:14:24 PM

The government Alsatian did what they always do whenever any "crisis" hits, they consult the bean counters FIRST.
Just like the C.E.O. of any major corporation the reaction is, "How can we get through this with the minimum financial loss". The government  >[ s ]<  over the years, on many things, have been accused of " knee jerk reactions", but in this case a knee jerk reaction to the ensuing Coronavirus catastrophe was DEFINITELY needed, as they are now finding out to their cost {or rather our cost}

Another thing that's got my goat:- quotes in today's Mirror......
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going.....where there was fear she has brought courage....with reassuring calmness she has lifted our spirits..... leading from the front..... she has united the country once more...... this vomit inducing bilge goes on for nearly 2 pages".

No prizes for guessing who they're on about, I must have missed something!

Was that intended to be lined out?

Edit: Just checked it. You'd put an s in square brackets [] at the end of the word government [ s ], which turned on the strike through feature (y)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 20, 2020, 12:13:48 PM
Once again Fly thanks I c*cked up, didn't remember about the s.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 20, 2020, 04:35:41 PM
Once again Fly thanks I c*cked up, didn't remember about the s.

It's people like you and I that keeps Fly busy!  ::)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 21, 2020, 08:41:38 AM
This is what we've been doing to amuse ourselves whilst in lockdown!

1000 pieces and took us around a work, it was quite a lot harder than a 'scenic' puzzle. It's interesting looking at all the old products.

Two images showing portrait and landscape view (and its put them both in the same orientation!)

I haven't had time to get bored. having cancelled all daughters support prior to the lockdown I am doing it, we pass time by playing board games on some days also she likes to have a walk round a few times each day inside. She can't really walk much but with the help of a walking frame and me following her plus rests in between she manages four times in a day inside the home. Anymore than four and she's in danger of falling but she's pleased with that.

I also have my Hedgehogs who are now being returned slowly to me. These are the  11 hoglets i rescued last year. There's others visiting my garden as well.

I keep in contact with friends by phone and also am receiving calls for support from people in the parish - this all makes for a busty day!

The shopping seems to be getting easier so I guess people have stopped panic buying now. I have booked deliveries   family and  daughters PA's are also helping with getting essentials.

I'm not sure what's happening with the PPE stuff it's not good is it! Our carers need protecting. I'm sure there will be a lot more horror stories and upsetting situations coming out in the next weeks!!

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 21, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
My daughter has got  it but the only sympton is a cough.She has been told by work to get tested but is in a difficult situation.The testing station is 7 miles away from where she lives in Nottingham.She does not drive  and cannot go by taxi and obviously all her friends do not want to risk it and she lives on her own.She has been in isolation for  seven days so hopefully she might get rid of the cough soon.
Her last hope is the taxi firm who she uses are going  let her know tomorrow whether anybody  will take her.

Hope your daughter recovers well umpire.
My step daughter has it ( well she thinks she has - without a testing kit it's guess work but she's been pretty bad with her breathing!) Working in a residential  home apparently another member of staff has gone off with it as well  -
Wishing everyone a full recovery x
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 21, 2020, 08:46:56 AM
This is what we've been doing to amuse ourselves whilst in lockdown!

1000 pieces and took us around a work, it was quite a lot harder than a 'scenic' puzzle. It's interesting looking at all the old products.

Two images showing portrait and landscape view (and its put them both in the same orientation!)

Love the Jigsaw !!  (y)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on April 21, 2020, 09:36:37 PM
I spoke to my daughter today and the cough has gone.She says its the best shes felt for over two weeks.Considering  that  she  has only had  a mild dose  of the virus   and it has taken that length of time  to recover those who survive serious symptoms could face a long road to complete recovery.
We are very relieved.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on April 22, 2020, 01:37:14 AM
Good news  (y)

Sending my best to all the forum members  MD
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 22, 2020, 08:29:01 AM
I spoke to my daughter today and the cough has gone.She says its the best shes felt for over two weeks.Considering  that  she  has only had  a mild dose  of the virus   and it has taken that length of time  to recover those who survive serious symptoms could face a long road to complete recovery.
We are very relieved.

I am pleased to hear this . Stay safe  (y)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 25, 2020, 11:07:12 AM
Closure of refuse sites was announced on CBC website 24th March, but I can't find any mention of green bin collections being suspended, and ours was collected on 8th April.  Where have you got this from please?


Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner.
Got a leaflet with our bin collection last week confirming green bin suspension till further notice as of 10th April, possibly you have one now!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on April 26, 2020, 09:21:05 PM
Thank you all.Back to work for her on Tuesday.We spoke to her this afternoon  in Nottingham and she was sat out in the sun.What sun is that I said not seen it in Newbold today.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on April 27, 2020, 06:48:47 PM

Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner.
Got a leaflet with our bin collection last week confirming green bin suspension till further notice as of 10th April, possibly you have one now!
Thank you.  No we haven't, and our green bin was emptied again on April 22nd.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 29, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
The new normal........

Some good things seem to be coming out of this, I've noticed over the weeks shopping has become {and made people become} more organised in their shopping habits. Many now just shop once a week, no more pushing and jostling for position in the supermarkets, browsing has almost ceased to exist, you are "herded" in an orderly fashion in and out of the store, everybody made to wait their turn, and most people have stopped griping about it.
As for holidays I believe holidays {if any at all}in this country will be the norm for a few years to come, mainly because we will probably end up with fewer flights and cruises, besides every country will be wanting it's population to spend and get the "mother" country back up and running first before spending your cash abroad, just imagine what places like Benidorm are like at this moment.
It looks like the new norm will be a condensed version of what we have been used to, and I can't see it becoming a bad thing in some respects.

Some not so good things. We have all been made aware, over the weeks, just how ineffective our government has been in tackling this outbreak, not least because in 2016 the powers that be did a "dummy run" on what to do and what was needed in case of a sudden pandemic and they all decided, on paper at least, they were more than ready.   
One thing the government {and future governments} MUST do is never ever take the N.H.S. and the caring profession for granted again, give them the staff they need, the P.P.E. they need and moreover give them ALL a pay rise.

According to the paper today a young girl of 10 is planning to do keepy-uppies presumably for charity, she's doing one for every U.K. key worker in the country. I won't tell you how many key workers there are but she has set herself 2,500 keepy-uppies per day and by the time she's finished she will be old enough to vote..... I blame the parents myself.
 

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 30, 2020, 12:14:52 PM
I have to be honest but I don't mind the restrictions, I'm so used to dashing around it makes a rest for me, also we as pensioners are I think lucky as at least we get our money every month!
It's the workers who are struggling.

I do with the weather would flipping well settle and warm up. I have two more hedgehogs waiting for release and it's really not fair to let them free. It would disadvantage them.

What is happening with the children is very concerning and I hear some schools may open?  Nooooooooo not a good idea just yet.

On the Celebration side I am sending Mr Tom my best wishes on his 100th birthday.
He has done our country proud  (y)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: handy on May 03, 2020, 02:07:01 PM
Agree with you we as pensioners are probably the best off, really no worries if we follow the rules on isolation etc we had the option of free food parcels etc turned them down, don't need them a lot poorer families need them more than us, a few pensioners do need more help the really disabled and we are on the vulnerable list but still feel we don't need them. Only been out once and that was a blood test chose the drive-through option set up at the Arena in Sheffield well set up no contact with anybody except the person taking the blood was well thought out and a think a safer than going to the Hallamshire Hospital.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 04, 2020, 12:07:35 PM
Now I know we are all in this together! diseases know no boundaries, old or young, rich or poor, famous or even infamous, BUT....

Is it really necessary for news channels to focus on individuals just because of their status.
We know only too well that the Prime Minister is in hospital with the virus {and hopefully will make a full recovery} but do we need a blow by blow account every waking moment of every day just because of who he is. To date over 5000 have died in this country with the virus, that means that 99:9% of the victims hardly got a mention.


I think, now Boris had a near death experience, he may have a better outlook on life and REALLY start and appreciate those around him, especially the hospital staff that for want of a better word saved his life. This should lead him to letting the rest of us hopefully getting a  fairer shake and I hope we all end up being better off for this.

I did find out where the beds in the Nightingale came from. When coronavirus hit the N.H.S. stopped ALL non essential operations thereby freeing up over 25,000 beds.
My only worry is that we relax too soon, if there's a small fire in your home you don't just throw a bucket of water on it and then go out, you stay put till you KNOW it's out and no longer a threat.
Better another two or three weeks of lockdown rather than us mingling and having to start all over again, with yet more losses.

 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on May 04, 2020, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from Sorastro: My only worry is that we relax too soon, if there's a small fire in your home you don't just throw a bucket of water on it and then go out, you stay put till you KNOW it's out and no longer a threat.
Better another two or three weeks of lockdown rather than us mingling and having to start all over again, with yet more losses.

That's my worry too, also given the number of people already flouting the social distancing rules (indeed a near neighbour had a 'garden party' for his family and friends this weekend) I shudder to think what'll happen once it starts to ease.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 05, 2020, 09:20:35 AM
Alas there are certain members of society that have to be told what to do every step of the way.
Having said that social distancing in certain circumstances can be very difficult. We will be catching the bus to town shortly, and passing someone walking through town and trying to keep your distance is very difficult, especially when they go to the trouble of only letting so many into a shop at one time and standing apart at checkouts but what about walking up and down the isles.
This can lead to frustration as last time we went into Tesco's in town we walked past a lady to get some veg, she politely coughed and pointed to an old lady picking the same veg saying she was waiting for the old lady to move away so she could get some so we tagged on behind. After standing there for what seemed an age the old lady was "faffing" around so the other woman just went and picked up the veg just out of sheer frustration. I tried waiting my turn for milk, same thing, another old woman deciding she wanted to read the label on the bottle so I did the same and got some milk, it's the same with most things it looks alright on paper.

As I've said if they relax the rules on lockdown I for one won't throw myself back into the fray, I and my wife will ease into it gently as obviously being pensioners we have the time to do that. 

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 08, 2020, 09:55:14 AM
Watched Matt Hancock on Question time last night {8p.m.-9p.m.} and they got on about the logistical challenge of getting a warehouse full of P.P.E. equipment out to the front line staff and he said it was basically in the hands of the army {obviously logistical corp.}
He mentioned the man in charge, Brigadier Phil Prosser.
I know nothing about the man except he is {apparently} very good at what the army asks him to do, moving tanks from Turkey to Timbuktu, saluting marching squaddies, shifting ammunition that sort of thing, but I personally think this job requires at bit more expertise  and manpower that the army can't provide, as the army only thinks 2 dimensionally.

It's common sense, you don't need a Brigadier, these delivery companies cover at least 95% of the country DAILY, the army can't.


So....Matt Hancock has now passed the logistics baton onto Lord Paul Deighton, obviously Colonel Blimp couldn't cut the mustard.
Deighton's claim to fame is that he was Chief Executive of the committee organising the 2012 white elephant...sorry Olympics.
Apparently his {sole} role was organising security for the Olympics. Not a small task, this is probably why he managed to mess it up to such a degree that at the eleventh hour the army was drafted in to take over, and that was with a preparation period of over six years.
Hands up all those who are now reassured!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on May 08, 2020, 01:25:35 PM
Our shopping was delivered today and the driver said that the roads were rammed! Idiots!

My fear is that if/when Boris starts to ease the restrictions, whatever criteria he sets (eg younger people) many mindless idiots will take it as carte blanch for them to go out willy nilly.

It annoys me when they're showing the graphs on the daily briefing programme, that they seem to make light of the fact that motor vehicle usage is constantly going up. Grow a pair and mete out the applicable punishment, as idiots such as them are endangering all our lives. We haven't been out for 7 weeks and, whilst it's not been a picnic (pun intended) it's done for the greater good of the nation.

Rant over!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 09, 2020, 09:58:44 AM
You get those people in all walks of life. They just can't seem to get it into their noggins that this is a life or death situation.

There is talk of them starting to re open garden centres sometime within the next few days. This will most likely start a stampede to these places, 90% of those visiting will just be there to get out of the house, it will be like a day at the seaside to them, and if the centres follow guide lines the vast majority will be just sat in their cars all day waiting to get in and possibly the influx will mean they shut up shop for safety reasons as they won't be able to cope.

As I say it doesn't affect me and my missus all that much, as pensioners we can basically afford to ride it out irrespective of the length of quarantine.
But the thoughts of mindless imbeciles literally wrecking the last 7 weeks work just for the sake of a "trip out" meaning we have to start over again fills me with dread.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on May 10, 2020, 04:34:45 PM
We have Boris speaking tonight, just hope he doesn't jump too far with the current lockdown but from what is being said it's going to be slow.
Heyho have lost this years holidays apart from a September break which we are trying to transfer to next year but I'm not holding my breath!!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 10, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
Heyho have lost this years holidays apart from a September break which we are trying to transfer to next year but I'm not holding my breath!!!


We were due to go end of next week and have re booked for September, and they had the cheek to charge us more. It would appear that Sykes holiday cottages {we booked with} have tried this stunt with almost 90% of people ringing/E mailing in because of the pandemic, so much so they stopped answering the phones and decided to open a trustpilot post to gauge the feelings of their customers. The post had only been open two or three days when I put my post on and there were over a dozen pages then, I looked for my post about 5 days later and my post was on PAGE 70 and it's growing by the hour.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on May 11, 2020, 08:58:23 AM

We were due to go end of next week and have re booked for September, and they had the cheek to charge us more. It would appear that Sykes holiday cottages {we booked with} have tried this stunt with almost 90% of people ringing/E mailing in because of the pandemic, so much so they stopped answering the phones and decided to open a trustpilot post to gauge the feelings of their customers. The post had only been open two or three days when I put my post on and there were over a dozen pages then, I looked for my post about 5 days later and my post was on PAGE 70 and it's growing by the hour.


Our first break was in March, we booked the principle hotel for two nights and a trip on a steam train to scotland for hubbies 70th birthday. We pushed to boat out cost wise because of the occasion. The steam train no problems we can transfer to another date but the hotel we booked through trivago - never again!!! Couldn't get through their lines were dead !
The months cruise in November is fine we transfered the cruise to next year ( no way do we want to be a on a ship this year! )
September is skegvegas - a working week, we are waiting for government guidelines I was told by the holiday company Seriously can we see Ingoldmells up and running in September - even if it where I non of us want to go into a crowded market area or on the fair ground - so we may lose that deposit as Insurance finishes in May and we wouldn't be covered for the Covid on this insurance!
Big Sigh !
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 16, 2020, 10:46:39 AM
Thank you.  No we haven't, and our green bin was emptied again on April 22nd.

I sent an E mail to N.E.D.D.C. asking..........
A/ why they don't open refuse sites to avoid excessive fly tipping....... and
B/ Why was our green bin emptying suspended when others weren't?

The reply was the usual, thank's but we will do it our way basically we will open when it's safe and as for the bins the same, and to keep checking the website for updates.
This reply came on the 5th of May. I checked the website a few days later and found they are reinstating the green bin collections starting the 18th May, this info went onto their website on the 4th of May!! 
I still think it's a mistake not to open up the sites, having said that I saw pictures on t.v. of one site that opened somewhere and the queue of traffic to get in stretched as far as the eye could see.
Once again you could have figured out that was going to happen.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 20, 2020, 10:56:28 AM
Was listening to the radio the other day concerning the governments {mis}handling of the pandemic. The independent speaker said obviously there would have to be an enquiry and these normally take place after the event, but as most enquiries take a lot to set up, usually a seemingly straightforward enquiry would take six to eight months to get up and running.
They said because of the severity of what we face the wheels should be set in motion NOW!
We are getting mixed messages from the government and it's so called experts. One may argue that some of the experts are being led by the government into giving misleading/wrong information whilst others are telling it like it is and being ignored.
They acknowledge that these are unusual times and that no one {yet} has a definitive answer, all the more reason to get this enquiry started now so any mistakes errors of judgement can be quickly discovered and rectified.

We may not be led by Donald {drink plenty of Domestos} Trump, but I firmly believe Boris Johnson is up there somewhere.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 25, 2020, 12:13:16 PM
"Cummings and goings".........

Well once again opinions are like backsides...everybody got one. Should he or shouldn't he have gone, TWICE apparently.
My opinion on the matter is I don't have an opinion on the matter.

All I know from what I've seen of the bloke is I think he's a weasely  opportunist who has convinced Boris and {most} of the cabinet that he's indispensable. The p.m. it seems can't go to the bog without Cumming's say so.
 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: hifimad on May 26, 2020, 12:05:06 PM
Ham Radio. It's times like this I'm glad I got my licence (y)

73's M6YIF  ;)
the real problem being 2m is dead in comparison to what it used to be and HF is boring.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on May 26, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
"Cummings and goings".........

Well once again opinions are like backsides...everybody got one. Should he or shouldn't he have gone, TWICE apparently.
My opinion on the matter is I don't have an opinion on the matter.

All I know from what I've seen of the bloke is I think he's a weasely  opportunist who has convinced Boris and {most} of the cabinet that he's indispensable. The p.m. it seems can't go to the bog without Cumming's say so.
 

Others, such as myself having a disabled daughter, have put contingency plans in place for the eventuality of this situation occurring, it's concerning that someone who is giving advice to our country couldn't also have thought this through prior to lockdown!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on May 26, 2020, 02:27:24 PM
the real problem being 2m is dead in comparison to what it used to be and HF is boring.

Haven't you tried any digital modes, Dmr, Dstar, Fusion ?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on May 27, 2020, 02:23:34 AM
All I know from what I've seen of the bloke is I think he's a weasely  opportunist who has convinced Boris and {most} of the cabinet that he's indispensable.
I think actually he IS indispensable.  Not because he's brilliant but because Boris is so useless as to be lost without him.  And a lost PM, in the middle of a national emergency, with a comfortable government majority and a general election nowhere near, is not something we need.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on May 28, 2020, 10:13:47 AM
I'm still staying in! No shopping for me!
The schools will have a hell of a job on when opening to accommodate more children!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 29, 2020, 01:44:49 PM
All of a sudden there is easing of lockdown by the P.M.

A cynical person would almost believe he has done this to attempt to turn everyone's attention away from the Cummings fiasco.
Either way I STILL think it's too soon, whatever his motives he could be gambling with peoples lives by doing this.

One bit of good news {well two actually} M.P's will be returning to Westminster next week {huzzar} and to avoid them mixing with the riff raff especially on public transport, Parliament has deemed it a good idea to let M.P.'s use taxi's, at the taxpayers expense obviously.

Only one good thing has come out of the Cummings fiasco, that is at least the vast majority of Parliament know where Durham is now!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on May 29, 2020, 04:37:30 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with you about easing of lockdown is too soon, i would much rather it have continued for at least another three weeks. Even the experts on last nights BBC programme said that, although cases are coming down, they're not coming down much.

Surely that indicates that we are still in a fragile position and it could easily lead to a spike in the number of cases.

Oh well, what do we commoners know? I just hope that we cynics are proved wrong.

As an aside, my sisters care home was tested last week (at last) and 15 carers and residents gave positive test results! Fortunately my sister is in a separate building for the disabled, along with 4 other residents. They have now locked down further whereby just 3 carers are covering all the shifts to avoid transmission of the virus.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on May 30, 2020, 12:04:44 PM
 It would appear Theresa May has now called for the "Dom"" to be sacked, and if anyone knows about being cr*p at your job it's her.

Quite a few of the experts, and doctors, say it's to soon. I still don't see what the rush is, from a financial point of view maybe but what price can you put on your {and others} health.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on June 05, 2020, 10:40:59 AM
Heard on the radio this morning about letting dentists re open.
The dentists say they haven't been given enough time {??} to prepare with screens, P.P.E.equipment staff etc. and they say if they do open the amount of time spent changing gowns and masks and cleaning the room after every patient means they will possibly only get to see about half a dozen patients a day.

Obviously whoever made that statement has a future as a politician. My new dentist whom I've only visited just once last year and hoping to go this July, from what I've seen of the building there are at least 6 dental "rooms" so just 3 dentists sharing 2 rooms each. After 3 patients seen in rooms 1, 2 and 3 they will see the next patients in rooms 4,5 and 6 whilst the first 3 are cleaned and keep alternating like that.

Obviously I don't fully know what's needed but it surely can't be THAT difficult to see more than 6 patients a day.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on June 07, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with you about easing of lockdown is too soon, i would much rather it have continued for at least another three weeks. Even the experts on last nights BBC programme said that, although cases are coming down, they're not coming down much.

Surely that indicates that we are still in a fragile position and it could easily lead to a spike in the number of cases.

Oh well, what do we commoners know? I just hope that we cynics are proved wrong.

As an aside, my sisters care home was tested last week (at last) and 15 carers and residents gave positive test results! Fortunately my sister is in a separate building for the disabled, along with 4 other residents. They have now locked down further whereby just 3 carers are covering all the shifts to avoid transmission of the virus.

That very worrying for all concerned, the kits have taken far too long to be put into practise.
I was listening to an interview during this last week. The person being interviewed was in the track and trace team and was saying she had had no one contact her at all, so was spending her time on other things.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on June 07, 2020, 12:32:43 PM
Heard on the radio this morning about letting dentists re open.
The dentists say they haven't been given enough time {??} to prepare with screens, P.P.E.equipment staff etc. and they say if they do open the amount of time spent changing gowns and masks and cleaning the room after every patient means they will possibly only get to see about half a dozen patients a day.

Obviously whoever made that statement has a future as a politician. My new dentist whom I've only visited just once last year and hoping to go this July, from what I've seen of the building there are at least 6 dental "rooms" so just 3 dentists sharing 2 rooms each. After 3 patients seen in rooms 1, 2 and 3 they will see the next patients in rooms 4,5 and 6 whilst the first 3 are cleaned and keep alternating like

Obviously I don't fully know what's needed but it surely can't be THAT difficult to see more than 6 patients a day.

I think the idea has been rejected for now.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on June 07, 2020, 12:42:23 PM
I agree that it is too soon, I'm guessing that the decision is more economy based rather than health!
It is a worrying situation with so many not working and struggling.
However, we do not need another lockdown with so many people dying again.
The scientists and Drs are telling the Government it is too soon for what they are doing - but they plough on!

We will continue as we are with isolating for now I can manage with ordering from Tesco and Iceland, anything they don't send I have someone who will get it for me.
See what happens in a couple of weeks I I believe the R has increased?

Currently, I'm waiting for a Visor - do not laugh  :-? :))
I ordered them for us all yesterday and they are due today, just a trial and this may be the 'new 'norm' in the future in some situations.
We have masks but I struggle with wearing mine because of my Asthma.

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on June 25, 2020, 08:02:53 AM
So my Visor ( Face Shield) came and I wear it when entering a shop, not that I am entering many.
We seem to be hurtling out of the Covid 'scare' of keeping our distance  - to it's ok don't be afraid to get out there.

i know I know - it's the economy, we are in a mess but lets not forget March and April 2020. Awful months where so many died.

Many are not wearing masks when out and those that are can sometimes be seen with the mask under their nose???
I'm wondering how many really understand how or why we should be wearing masks/ face shields.
Confusion on the buses, where some drivers let people on without a mask and some don't ( maybe that person has declared a medical reason)
Some complain that ( like me ) they cannot wear a mask - so buy a face shield -

I'm unsure if people who are wearing masks are under the impression that it will keep them safe, when in actual fact they are to keep others safe from the person wearing the mask -

We are in confusing times where the powers that be cannot agree on the way forward with this.
As fo little old me - I think it is too much too soon and this old girl is staying in semi isolation !!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on June 27, 2020, 11:19:11 AM
Drifting slightly left field but Covid connected.. I sent a small letter/parcel to an address down South. It was sent Tuesday 23rd and obviously, without giving it much thought, paid for next day delivery.

Up to now it has not been delivered. Now I know {and it says on the Royal Mail website} due to the pandemic we can't promise the agreed delivery day because everything is up in the air, which I fully understand and have no trouble with, but I did pay for next day delivery and obviously didn't get it, so my question is :-
"Why, if they knew darn well it wouldn't be delivered on the day stated, was I still asked what I wanted and charged that price?"
Fortunately we are not talking a massive amount difference between 1st and 2nd class and the item wasn't urgent, but non the less like all parcel delivery companies over the past few years they are promising more than they can deliver, as soon as they hit a bump in the road things start to unravel.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on July 17, 2020, 01:42:39 PM
The new normal........

Some good things seem to be coming out of this, I've noticed over the weeks shopping has become {and made people become} more organised in their shopping habits. Many now just shop once a week, no more pushing and jostling for position in the supermarkets, browsing has almost ceased to exist, you are "herded" in an orderly fashion in and out of the store, everybody made to wait their turn, and most people have stopped griping about it.
As for holidays I believe holidays {if any at all}in this country will be the norm for a few years to come, mainly because we will probably end up with fewer flights and cruises, besides every country will be wanting it's population to spend and get the "mother" country back up and running first before spending your cash abroad, just imagine what places like Benidorm are like at this moment.
It looks like the new norm will be a condensed version of what we have been used to, and I can't see it becoming a bad thing in some respects.

Yes some people can't wait to get back to normal....
Back to people coughing and sneezing in your face or down the back of your neck.
Back to sitting on a bus next to someone that smells like a polecats rear end.
Back to wading through hoards of smokers cluttering up building entrances.
Back to having people constantly invading your space.
 Yes can't wait!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on July 20, 2020, 08:28:23 PM
 News this morning in which they seem to be on the cusp of a real breakthrough In the fight against Covid. This antidote, still early days as trials continue but hopefully a "cure" will be ready later this year early next year.....good news without a doubt.

This pandemic hit over 6 months ago now and it was brand spanking new, the world had never seen the like, nobody knew anything about it, nothing! and it's cut a swathe through the worlds population {and still is} yet here we are. The t.v. has people telling us a cure is just round the corner.

YET..... What about Cancer?
Cancer has been with us for DECADES now, although quite different it has the same effect as Covid by being a world crisis, maybe not as swift as Covid but just as devastating and yet having said that, they don't seem to be any closer to a cure and they've had a heck of a lot more time to work on Cancer that has claimed millions of lives.
I'm not medically trained. I don't claim to know the complexities of these diseases and/or their cures but after decades, a cure for Cancer seems as far away now as it has ever been. 
Yes they constantly claim "making progress"..." great leaps forward"...."innovative technology in the fight" but never the magic word!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on July 21, 2020, 09:04:12 AM
Sorastro, so many people who are just back to normal and yes i think we may be heading towards another serious outbreak.
I caught a brief mention on the news that we have protests against wearing masks.
So they want to right to pass on and ( maybe kill) others should they themselves have the virus and not know it?
Is this right?

We used Amazon a lot more than we normally do ( in fact I order very little normally via the internet.
However there has been items such as Hedgehog food my normal retailer couldn't get - so I used Amazon.
All was well and good came pretty quickly - then we had a delivery which 'should' have been made by the post office - it never arrived?
I got a refund but it was supposedly 'dispatched ' so where did it go ?

Cancer, I think they can extend life more than what they used to be able too but there are some that grow much quicker than what the medics can cope with - maybe one day -------

Back to Covid, I will carry on using online shopping as much as possible especially for groceries, and yes I do now go into shops but only with my face shield on!
Also slowly introducing my daughter back to shops ( she loves her shopping) but again she wears a face shield.

Lets hope that jab to combat Covid works and is available soon
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on July 21, 2020, 11:34:08 AM
Unfortunately O.C. Covid appears to effect people based on their age. Like you and me we are in the "danger zone" so to speak so we have to tread carefully, so strangely enough we have some sort of understanding of Covid.
Unlike Cancer, as has been shown, this can attack people of ALL ages, so without down crying Covid I would still have finding a cure for Cancer right up there on the "to do" list and as I say decades have now passed and yes progress has been made, but progress is not a cure.

Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on July 22, 2020, 01:21:15 PM
Unfortunately O.C. Covid appears to effect people based on their age. Like you and me we are in the "danger zone" so to speak so we have to tread carefully, so strangely enough we have some sort of understanding of Covid.
Unlike Cancer, as has been shown, this can attack people of ALL ages, so without down crying Covid I would still have finding a cure for Cancer right up there on the "to do" list and as I say decades have now passed and yes progress has been made, but progress is not a cure.


Totally agree with you obviously different diseases must bring different challenges. It would be interesting to read WHY they are struggling so much with a complete cancer cure.
Some is genetic we know this so I suppose that may pose different problems.
 :(
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on July 23, 2020, 03:41:01 PM
As I said I have no medical background.

The good bit in me would like to think that Cancer is so varied and complex, even with the tests and trials that are ongoing and many avenues to explore, a cure won't be found any time soon, it all appears to be in the lap of the Gods.

The cynical bit in me thinks like many others, it's all down to cost. If the worlds ills are cured straight away 90% of these medical labs would not be needed and so go out of business, it's like the old "finding a cure for the common cold" chestnut that has been around longer than the Cancer trials, plenty of stuff on the market to help relieve your cold that millions buy yearly that generate billions for these drug companies, yet so far down this road no "cure" and compared to today's ills with the technology they have you would have thought curing a cold would be a doddle.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on July 24, 2020, 12:44:20 AM
Comparing Cancer to the common cold is quite a good scenario (y)
There are over 100,000 known common cold 'bugs'.
Everyone catches a dose of a 1, 2 ...... 100+ of these bugs at a time. 'A cold' now and again.
Therefore there are 38,955,840 combinations of common cold.
A cure for one might do sod all for the other.

That's the fight with cancer
It's not in gods hands.
It's fact. It kills people. slow or quickly, it has no mercy.

I hope all the forum members who read this are well (y)
Just to update you all, the step son and mother in law, are both diagnosed terminal,
and all the family members are willing them to be here for the next x+ Christmases or so.

Welcome to my world  :-X  (y)


Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on July 27, 2020, 09:24:53 PM
Ditto Fly.
I've lived with the threat over my head for my daughter for over 20years. Sometimes they get it wrong but it's still there - lurking.
Unlike my youngest brother who didn't survive, his was swift
One day maybe they will find that magical all round cure = maybe -----
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on August 08, 2020, 12:03:11 PM
The Government making it compulsory for the wearing of face masks for shoppers, shoppers not adhering to the rule could be find up to £100.
As usual no one is policing this, and who's job is it anyway?

The police can't {or won't} police it, the shops staff aren't enforcing it, we were in Morrisons at Staveley yesterday and saw no fewer than 3 people without masks {all o.a.p.'s} and not being challenged by the staff. They had a member of staff on the entrance counting you in, I would have thought that people not wearing masks would be challenged and either refused access or supplied with a mask. They had an ordinary member of staff on the entrance and a security guard on the exit, I would have thought swapping them round would have been better, at least security does have a modicum of authority about them. Obviously Morrisons like the other big supermarkets are frightened to death to upset {and possibly lose customers } so let it slide but it shouldn't happen. The excuse of "Well I have asthma and can't wear one" doesn't hold water with me, the wife and I have had asthma for 40 years but that doesn't stop us abiding by the rules. I hate wearing a mask and so does the wife, but we do.

What would this supermarket do if through their "negligence" their staff and customers got infected and had to close down for the foreseeable future, it would cost them more than refusing entry to a few dozen people not wearing masks. Anyone walking into shops not wearing a mask has no intention of wearing one, obviously a law unto themselves, so they should have their groceries delivered or start being turned away from ALL the shops till they get the message. 

If we don't start enforcing these safety measures we will never be free of lockdown.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on September 23, 2020, 06:08:50 PM
I believe Boris is trumpeting the fact that Britain is testing more people than anywhere else in the E.U.

If true, and I believe it is, the reason could be very simple, most other countries got a grip of Covid from the outset so managed to control it better and keep a lid on it, in other words whilst we were umming and arring over what to do in the middle of March, other E.U. countries had rolled their sleeves up and got stuck in, because of this one such country is doing less than 1000 tests a day. Their citizens have access to a great app that, when used, determines if they need a test or not, if they do they can get one just by booking an appointment with their local G.P.

Someone I know went to Clay Cross hospital the other day with an unrelated illness, but was advised to still get a Covid test done as a precaution...

A/  She wasn't offered one at the hospital {whilst already there}

B/  Once home she rang up for a home testing kit just to be told there are none available.

C/   Apparently the nearest testing station to us is in OLDHAM!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on September 27, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
The Government making it compulsory for the wearing of face masks for shoppers, shoppers not adhering to the rule could be find up to £100.
As usual no one is policing this, and who's job is it anyway?

The police can't {or won't} police it, the shops staff aren't enforcing it, we were in Morrisons at Staveley yesterday and saw no fewer than 3 people without masks {all o.a.p.'s} and not being challenged by the staff. They had a member of staff on the entrance counting you in, I would have thought that people not wearing masks would be challenged and either refused access or supplied with a mask. They had an ordinary member of staff on the entrance and a security guard on the exit, I would have thought swapping them round would have been better, at least security does have a modicum of authority about them. Obviously Morrisons like the other big supermarkets are frightened to death to upset {and possibly lose customers } so let it slide but it shouldn't happen. The excuse of "Well I have asthma and can't wear one" doesn't hles. Iold water with me, the wife and I have had asthma for 40 years but that doesn't stop us abiding by the ru hate wearing a mask and so does the wife, but we do.

What would this supermarket do if through their "negligence" their staff and customers got infected and had to close down for the foreseeable future, it would cost them more than refusing entry to a few dozen people not wearing masks. Anyone walking into shops not wearing a mask has no intention of wearing one, obviously a law unto themselves, so they should have their groceries delivered or start being turned away from ALL the shops till they get the message. 

If we don't start enforcing these safety measures we will never be free of lockdown.

 The excuse of "Well I have asthma and can't wear one" doesn't hles. Iold water with me, the wife and I have had asthma for 40 years but that doesn't stop us abiding by the ru hate wearing a mask and so does the wife, but we do.


Totally agree, I also am asthmatic and have tried the masks but after a short while my chest starts to tighten. Instead I wear a face sheild as does daughter.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on September 27, 2020, 07:16:22 PM
I believe Boris is trumpeting the fact that Britain is testing more people than anywhere else in the E.U.

If true, and I believe it is, the reason could be very simple, most other countries got a grip of Covid from the outset so managed to control it better and keep a lid on it, in other words whilst we were umming and arring over what to do in the middle of March, other E.U. countries had rolled their sleeves up and got stuck in, because of this one such country is doing less than 1000 tests a day. Their citizens have access to a great app that, when used, determines if they need a test or not, if they do they can get one just by booking an appointment with their local G.P.

Someone I know went to Clay Cross hospital the other day with an unrelated illness, but was advised to still get a Covid test done as a precaution...

A/  She wasn't offered one at the hospital {whilst already there}

B/  Once home she rang up for a home testing kit just to be told there are none available.

C/   Apparently the nearest testing station to us is in OLDHAM!!

I despair with this testing fiasco!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on September 27, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
Panis buying is back. :-?
Nipped daughter and support into Clay Cross last Thursday and I nipped into Tesco to pick up my weekends vegetables/fruit.

Now here's where I was a bit thick as some shelves were rather depleted, and there were longish queues to check outs.
I'm thinking what day is it - is it Friday ( this day can get busy in Clay Cross) errr no it's Thursday
Is it pay day for some --- no idea really
When we got nearer the check out two ladies were standing in front of me complaining about the panic buying
ahhh the penny dropped! :-? :-? :-?

Check out staff were despairing about the shelving being stripped.

Friday I heard some supermarkets were rationing certain items - for goodness sake what's the panic for!!
The assistance thought it was because people were fearing another lockdown!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on October 02, 2020, 11:04:25 AM
So.......P.O.T.U.S. and F.L.O.T.U.S have Covid, can't say I'm surprised.

The S.N.P. M.P. Margaret Ferrier was diagnosed with Covid but still travelled {by train no less} back to Scotland. Does this mean she will be treated like everyone else and fined £10,000....I won't hold my breath!

Still don't understand the "pub" rules. In our club last orders 9:30 everybody out by 10:00. You can chat to your hearts content to other people but if you stand up to say go to the toilet or go outside for a fag or just even wander around you MUST put on your mask, so whilst your sat down your quite obviously "safe" so why can't they stay open a little longer.......madness.
The bottom line is if we are to beat Covid {together} then we either mix with EVERYONE following safety precautions to the letter and beyond, or we don't mix at all.

I said from the outset {on an earlier post} restrictions were lifted too early, and I seem to be being proved right, well lets face it you didn't have to be a clairvoyant to have figured that out.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on October 02, 2020, 01:39:34 PM


Someone I know went to Clay Cross hospital the other day with an unrelated illness, but was advised to still get a Covid test done as a precaution...

A/  She wasn't offered one at the hospital {whilst already there}

B/  Once home she rang up for a home testing kit just to be told there are none available.

C/   Apparently the nearest testing station to us is in OLDHAM!!


Got an update, apparently when you ring for a test it all depends what you tell them. For example if you have access to a car and have spare time {o.a.p.... stay home parent} and tell them that, they will send you all over the country to distant testing stations, but if you don't admit to any of the above, like this person did, she was sent to one less than 10 miles away from Chesterfield, so where she lives it was only about 6 miles away!! and she got her test and the result was less than 24 hours later, negative I might add.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on October 03, 2020, 12:17:08 PM
Donald Trump and partner are isolating after testing positive, I wish them both a speedy recovery.
It sounds as if the White House is a Covid zone at the moment as well!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on October 10, 2020, 11:19:40 AM
The good news is we have more testing stations in Derbyshire
The bad news is our Covid numbers are on the increase and we will obviously be needing them!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on October 16, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
Despite Covid some firms are booming and their profits soaring.

It is alleged:-

Consultancy firms are "lending their staffs expertise" to the government. This means that the government have become so reliant on these companies they can no longer seem to function without them, so instead of Joe public just paying a few M.P.'s to come up with answers, like they are supposed to, the public purse is ever stretched because it's paying ludicrous amounts of our money to these firms to wet nurse these clueless M.P.'s.
One firm is {or was} apparently supplying interns whose basic job is/was just to photocopy files, these are/were on loan to the government at approximately £300 per hour. Consultants obviously come a little dearer averaging £1500 per hour.

When one of these companies gets a government contract it's champagne all round as they can literally write their own cheques.
Covid was the best thing that ever happened as far as they are concerned, and long may it continue!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on October 27, 2020, 12:12:03 PM
It may well long continue with how things are going.
I was hoping we might go back to medium tier after three weeks but looking at figures I doubt it.
We were about to go away with friends for the weekend the day after it was made public we were to go into tier 2, Cancelled!
Will we go in November -- I doubt it.
Calow has cancelled visiting for all but compassionate visits and current figures ar 40 covid cases in there.
We have bolted back down our hole and resumed ordering groceries, too many people i know or friends who have friends are going down with covid.
Ahhh well roll on 2021 and see what happens
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on October 27, 2020, 01:24:05 PM
It may well long continue with how things are going.
I was hoping we might go back to medium tier after three weeks but looking at figures I doubt it.
We were about to go away with friends for the weekend the day after it was made public we were to go into tier 2, Cancelled!
Will we go in November -- I doubt it.

This is what I don't understand about this tier system, each area has it's own tier "number" but it's not controlling the movement from one district to another, yes you can't visit loved ones or go on holiday but still there's massive [daily] movement of say delivery people in and around that move from one area to another, utter madness. Most of South Yorkshire is tier 3 yet there's nothing stopping me, or anyone, jumping in my car and driving to Yorkshire or anywhere else for that matter.

We should have had total lockdown, nothing short, otherwise we will never be rid.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on October 31, 2020, 04:47:51 PM
We should have had total lockdown, nothing short, otherwise we will never be rid.
Well it seems Boris has finally caught up with you - lockdown from next Wednesday from what I hear.

I think there have been two problems, quite apart from non-compliance.  One is that instead of following the science as promised, the government has been weighing the science against the economy, and the economy has been winning.  The tier system does have some effect - that is why the virus is now spreading faster in the south than in the north.  But it isn't enough, because the other problem is that although they understand the science, I really don't think they understand the mathematics. As long as R is above 1, however marginally, growth will be exponential, and to quote a recent scientist, even a slow exponential growth will overwhelm the NHS.

As for non-compliance, there must be enough people losing their jobs to double the police force, which would be better than paying people to twiddle their thumbs.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on October 31, 2020, 07:17:52 PM
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Well it seems Boris has finally caught up with you - lockdown from next Wednesday from what I hear.
It's now official, but it's Thursday (subject to parliamentary approval on Wednesday).
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on October 31, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
Having watched him on t.v. this evening his mantra of "Never say your sorry" still seems to be intact.

He hasn't grasped what everyone is saying "Why are we getting this spike" he glibly replies the Continent is in the same boat.

Take Germany that's spiking, but as one of his advisers let slip, Germany is in trouble mainly because it's surrounded by NINE other countries so have their work cut out. We on the other hand are an ISLAND if any country has a head start on other countries and a chance to bring this pandemic under control it's us, the bloke has no idea, just how many more Covid casualties will it take before someone tells him he's fired.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on November 01, 2020, 01:57:46 PM
he always sails over the facts and and makes excuses.
It should have been done ages ago, but when he stands there telling people to go out there as normal what did he expect - some can't logic it out for themselves and he shouldn't presume everyone can or will!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 06, 2020, 12:35:02 PM
Despite Covid some firms are booming and their profits soaring.

It is alleged:-

When one of these companies gets a government contract it's champagne all round as they can literally write their own cheques.
Covid was the best thing that ever happened as far as they are concerned, and long may it continue!!


It is alleged:-

Test and trace has been outsourced to private firms since March, the T&T fiasco that EVERYONE is now aware of has cost the taxpayer well in excess of £150million thus far and it's shambolic to say the least. Now lockdown part deux has arrive for who knows how long these same companies are being retained, so for the next few weeks the taxpayer will be shovelling wads of cash into these companies bank accounts and you can bet your bottom dollar {if there's any dollars left} we won't be a great deal better off.
Watch this space!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 07, 2020, 10:03:18 AM
We went shopping yesterday morning and to and from the supermarket I bet we didn't see more than two dozen vehicles.

Now, bearing in mind the obvious turmoil the country is in, I would have thought that given the movement of people is at an all time low, wouldn't it be a good time to start "tidying" the place up a bit, for example:-

Send council workers out to start filling in the pot holes, replacing/realigning road signs, re painting lines on the roads etc. I don't mean send gangs of them out, one bloke with a flatbed transit could do most of these chores on his own.

Noticed on the news this morning:-

Edmund King president of the AA says because of the lockdown, now would be a good time for the government to start filling in pot holes and re surfacing our roads. He says it could all be done with £10 billion.

Good idea {bit on the late side} but good idea.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on November 07, 2020, 12:47:10 PM
This time around there are so many people that I know who have got it or had it.
We are bunkered down.
I tried the Click and Collect service from Tesco last week, it actually worked quite well. I think the only draw back with it would be if it was raining heavy.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 07, 2020, 06:51:51 PM
I tried the Click and Collect service from Tesco last week, it actually worked quite well. I think the only draw back with it would be if it was raining heavy.

Amazing isn't it O.C. click and collect works very well....track and trace doesn't!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: bransoj on November 10, 2020, 01:39:21 PM
We did a click and collect from Tesco Clay Cross for my brother in law first lockdown as they were isolating due to a vulnerable person in the household, worked fine and was very easy. We've been using delivery from Sainsburys and they've never let us down really even when we were doing weekly shops totalling £300/£400 as we shopped for 3 or 4 households. We'd been long time delivery pass holders so we got priority over booking delivery slots during the first lockdown.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on November 11, 2020, 01:21:31 PM
I've used Tesco and Iceland deliveries in the first lockdown.
Both worked well enough but the fresh fruit and veg at times left a lot to be desired.
Have to say the click and collect fresh items were better but maybe that's just down to the packer!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on November 11, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
I've used Tesco and Iceland deliveries in the first lockdown.
Both worked well enough but the fresh fruit and veg at times left a lot to be desired.
Have to say the click and collect fresh items were better but maybe that's just down to the packer!

We have our shopping delivered from Morrisons, and the state of some of the packing beggars belief!

Six pints of milk on top of a cake. Large bag of potatoes on top of eggs!

Give me strength.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 11, 2020, 08:36:08 PM
We have our shopping delivered from Morrisons, and the state of some of the packing beggars belief!

Six pints of milk on top of a cake. Large bag of potatoes on top of eggs!

Give me strength.

Some explanations Alsatian....we shop in  Morrisons and I've noticed those going round the store order picking the average age looks to be about 14. Where they are getting them from I don't know, one possible explanation is students {schoolkids even} after a bit of ready cash as you can bet they will be on just a few pounds an hour. They could even be the offspring of some of the staff drafted in to help, either way they seem to be left to their own devices. I saw one of them the other day picking, her finger nails had to be an inch long, which must have cost an arm and a leg, she looked like Wolverine, handling food and virtually having to use both hands to pick items up, picking seemed alien to her.
It was just the same when I had my parcel delivery head on years ago. During busy times {Xmas} they drafted in agency staff to sort parcels into skips for relevant drivers to then load and deliver. I've lost count of the number of times I've found half a dozen cases of heavy wine stacked in a skip on top of fragile parcels {t.v. monitors...kids toys} a few underneath crushed to b*ggery, this is why a lot of people had to re order stuff, the crushed "toy" was quietly sent back by the depot so by the time the customer got it, after the re order, the company was getting a reputation for it's late deliveries, when most of the time they were having to cover for rubbish workers.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 11, 2020, 08:45:16 PM
Was informed yesterday of an "incident" in Chesterfield.....

It is alleged:-

Police in the town centre came across at least two dozen students {obviously from Chesterfield College} all sat together and when the police tried to peacefully "break up" the gathering by explaining the Covid rules they were met by torrents of abuse.

That's all the info I got, so if anyone can fill in the blanks feel free, but if that's the attitude we can expect from people Covid will be going on for a very long time.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: bransoj on November 12, 2020, 03:07:06 PM
We have our shopping delivered from Morrisons, and the state of some of the packing beggars belief!

Six pints of milk on top of a cake. Large bag of potatoes on top of eggs!

Give me strength.
We've had the odd similar instance with our Sainsburys delivery but we always mention it to the the driver and they refund it and let us keep it unless its really bad.

We've had the odd strange sub as well, we ordered some Sainsburys nappy pants for our little one which they didnt have but instead of sending a different make in the same size they sent Sainsburys one 2 sizes smaller. Then more recently we ordered some champagne for a birthday do and it was 25% off plus more of a discount for buying 6. They only sent 5 saying they couldnt do six bottles so that ended up costing more than the 6 bottles should have been...one phone call to customer services sorted that with a refund of sorts etc.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on November 14, 2020, 07:20:04 PM
It's certainly a gamble at times but I'm sticking with it for now. It's not been too good in our village with the Covid and the schools struggled a bit as well.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on November 14, 2020, 09:58:34 PM
We get a refund for any damaged items but, in these days, it's difficult to get replacements if the item is unusable.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on November 15, 2020, 09:45:32 PM
I'm just in the middle of another click and collect, putting a few Christmas goodies in this order as I suspect it will get difficult to get a slot in December ( I'm not banking on this lockdown being lifted) ::)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 25, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
So the major football clubs are in dire straits {financially} already eh?
These footballers have been spoiled rotten
When this pandemic is over lets start paying out realistic sums in wages, if they moan sack 'em... let them go abroad to play or better still sign on and get dole money for a couple of months till they find a "proper" job. Then just imagine going to watch Manchester United play and only paying £2:50p to get in, and the players car park full of Skodas and Ford Focuses 

It is alleged....
Many of these footballers {with the help of accountants and lawyers} set up schemes that enable them to "dodge" paying taxes due. This as everyone knows means that they, and many other wealthy people, can circumvent the tax system and therefore deprive the exchequer of it's due's, as it turns out it's cheaper to pay accountants and lawyers than pay their proper taxes.
Even so called do gooders that appear to be "helping out" are usually found to be in amongst this breed so much so that high paid footballers can earn much more and not even kick a ball and their accountants make sure they pay minimal tax.
One such footballer hailed a hero after getting the government to back track on meals for kids during school holidays is apparently one of these lucky punters, maybe if he, the rest, and football in general paid the proper amount of tax we would have the coffers to do things like this without waiting for "superhero's" to emerge.   
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on November 26, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
It seem that the whole of Derbyshire is going into Tier 3 when the current lockdown ends. 
So obviously that didn't work. (Surprise, surprise!)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on November 26, 2020, 07:44:52 PM
It seem that the whole of Derbyshire is going into Tier 3 when the current lockdown ends. 
So obviously that didn't work. (Surprise, surprise!)

I missed all the excitement on the news. Have just spoken to my daughter who's down South, they apparently are in Tier 2.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on December 19, 2020, 10:34:32 AM
Judging by the reaction of most of the papers [today] and opinions of many experts there's a 99% chance of there being a spike straight after Christmas, and I fear that too.
People have to ask themselves one question about the Christmas easing, "Is it worth taking the risk?", the answer must be a definite NO!

Of course it will be a difficult Christmas and New Year, but to the senior citizens I would say "Better to sacrifice this Christmas than risk not being around for the next". To the young and middle aged I would say "Don't be selfish you have many more to look forward to".

Obviously I'm speaking from a sedentary position, being one who has retired and is "getting on" so the sacrifices being asked of the people who have large families especially those who have work and the craving to "have a good time" over the festive season must be enormous and I don't envy you one bit, but my watchword is caution. Over the next few days especially...
If your not sure about something, then don't do it!.....otherwise we will be on the lock down treadmill well into the next year.



Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on December 19, 2020, 05:11:37 PM
Well Boris has finally had to eat humble pie! He's made more or less the right decision over Christmas - just at least a week too late. I very much doubt that everybody will comply due to this late notification.

I applaud the decision to create a 'tier 4', I just hope he has the b@lls to use it in the future when (not if) it becomes necessary.

On a similar note, my disabled sister (who lives in a care home) had an appointment at the hospital come through for a routine ear related outpatient appointment in Jan next year.
No way on this earth am I taking her out of a care home to go for a non-urgent appointment. That is putting too many people at risk. Apparently, the last time a resident went there as an outpatient, they came back with Covid and thirteen residents subsequently caught it and unfortunately died.

The care home have just opened up for visits, subject to a negative fast test result. Not wishing to seem harsh and unfeeling but, with so many false positive /negative results, no way am I prepared to either take the disease into the care home, or to bring it out of there.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on December 19, 2020, 09:21:02 PM
\I have been to the Royal for an ultrasound this morning and it was pretty busy in that department,
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on December 20, 2020, 09:29:40 AM
Well Boris has finally had to eat humble pie! He's made more or less the right decision over Christmas - just at least a week too late. I very much doubt that everybody will comply due to this late notification.

I applaud the decision to create a 'tier 4', I just hope he has the b@lls to use it in the future when (not if) it becomes necessary.

On a similar note, my disabled sister (who lives in a care home) had an appointment at the hospital come through for a routine ear related outpatient appointment in Jan next year.
No way on this earth am I taking her out of a care home to go for a non-urgent appointment. That is putting too many people at risk. Apparently, the last time a resident went there as an outpatient, they came back with Covid and thirteen residents subsequently caught it and unfortunately died.

The care home have just opened up for visits, subject to a negative fast test result. Not wishing to seem harsh and unfeeling but, with so many false positive /negative results, no way am I prepared to either take the disease into the care home, or to bring it out of there.



Boris is left again looking stupid, he tries to be Mr nice guy and it doesn'r work! Most of us knew what needed doing for the festive season -
Shops - there's no social distancing on the occasions I have been in. They can have queue's outside all they want but once inside it's a free for all! We can't expect the shop staff to police that!
Schools - have to keep sending certain years home in Tupton Hall and others have had problems.
Hospitals I wouldn't go for a routing appointment either Alsatian, better to stay away!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on December 20, 2020, 11:50:57 AM
Judging by the reaction of most of the papers [today] and opinions of many experts there's a 99% chance of there being a spike straight after Christmas, and I fear that too.
People have to ask themselves one question about the Christmas easing, "Is it worth taking the risk?", the answer must be a definite NO!

Of course it will be a difficult Christmas and New Year, but to the senior citizens I would say "Better to sacrifice this Christmas than risk not being around for the next". To the young and middle aged I would say "Don't be selfish you have many more to look forward to".

Obviously I'm speaking from a sedentary position, being one who has retired and is "getting on" so the sacrifices being asked of the people who have large families especially those who have work and the craving to "have a good time" over the festive season must be enormous and I don't envy you one bit, but my watchword is caution. Over the next few days especially...
If your not sure about something, then don't do it!.....otherwise we will be on the lock down treadmill well into the next year.


Having watched the briefing yesterday afternoon I can't help but wonder if Boris was looking over my shoulder whilst I typed the above post that morning!
As for "applauding his decision to create a tier 4" it doesn't really matter.. it could be tier 7, because as long as people "mingle" at either work or shopping or just passing in the street we will never be fully rid of it and subsequent lockdowns.
Easing the restrictions over Christmas was a no brainer from the get go... Corona virus needs to be defeated not toyed with.
The vaccine roll out in the first week there were just over 135,000 got their jab, sounds a lot but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the "waiting list"
I know it's a mammoth task, but the way Boris and his health minister have been describing the success of the mass roll out  after only one week the section me and the wife are in, at this rate, I can't see us getting our shots till about April May time, maybe even longer.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on December 20, 2020, 12:45:49 PM
This is the second time Boris has done this.  Remember the rejected 'circuit break' in October, which resulted in lockdown in November?

"We must follow the science! Except when we don't like what it says.  Then we ignore it, because, after all, we are the Prime Minister. 
Until it's far too late, and then, bugger it, we must follow the science!"
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on January 05, 2021, 12:40:28 PM
Apparently there were rumours abound in government that Boris was going to throw in the towel in the new year after Brexit was "fixed".

Unfortunately {for all of us} he has to stay on mainly because...

A/ He doesn't want to appear a failure and walk away like his old school chum Cameron.

B/ Because of Covid nobody wants the damn job anyway, so he's stuck with the poison chalice for a little while longer, much to the dismay of people like me who want him gone but are still stuck with him.

Whatever the outcome of 2021 is I still think he won't be in no.10 by the end of the year, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on January 11, 2021, 07:53:04 PM
The Government making it compulsory for the wearing of face masks for shoppers, shoppers not adhering to the rule could be find up to £100.
As usual no one is policing this, and who's job is it anyway?

The police can't {or won't} police it, the shops staff aren't enforcing it, we were in Morrisons at Staveley yesterday and saw no fewer than 3 people without masks {all o.a.p.'s} and not being challenged by the staff. They had a member of staff on the entrance counting you in, I would have thought that people not wearing masks would be challenged and either refused access or supplied with a mask. They had an ordinary member of staff on the entrance and a security guard on the exit, I would have thought swapping them round would have been better, at least security does have a modicum of authority about them. Obviously Morrisons like the other big supermarkets are frightened to death to upset {and possibly lose customers } so let it slide but it shouldn't happen. The excuse of "Well I have asthma and can't wear one" doesn't hold water with me, the wife and I have had asthma for 40 years but that doesn't stop us abiding by the rules. I hate wearing a mask and so does the wife, but we do.

What would this supermarket do if through their "negligence" their staff and customers got infected and had to close down for the foreseeable future, it would cost them more than refusing entry to a few dozen people not wearing masks. Anyone walking into shops not wearing a mask has no intention of wearing one, obviously a law unto themselves, so they should have their groceries delivered or start being turned away from ALL the shops till they get the message. 

If we don't start enforcing these safety measures we will never be free of lockdown.


News today Morrisons to enforce facemask wearing......exept for the medically exempt of course!..WASTE OF BL**DY TIME!!!
While ever there's exemptions we will never get on top of this.
I and my wife are fast reaching the twilight of our years and we don't want to spend the remaining time that's left to us impersonating a prisoner in solitary on death row.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on January 12, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
How very true!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Tarzan on January 12, 2021, 06:24:45 PM
Never fails to amaze me how journalists are quite happy to slate everyone else, but none of their own profession when it comes to breaking or pushing the boundries of covid rules. Whilst watching  a tv news report  on Boris's bike ride, i couldn't help but notice how press photographers & tv camera crews were clambering all over one another to get a good picture of Boris, no social distancing at all & only a few were wearing masks. Same thing happened a couple of weeks ago when  something was happening at the Old Bailey & it's an all too common occurance in Downing Street.  :o
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on January 12, 2021, 07:49:03 PM
Alsatian......
 Now THAT'S the poster that needs to be used in the fight against covid, I hope someone starts printing T shirts with that on, I would buy two definitely.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on January 13, 2021, 07:00:40 PM
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Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on January 13, 2021, 10:58:37 PM
 :)) :)) :)) Only 7 years?  :))
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on February 07, 2021, 12:42:45 PM
It is alleged...............
                      The "better off" countries have clubbed together to help roll out the vaccine to under developed and developing countries. The U.K. is allegedly bankrolling this endeavour to the tune of £548 million. Thus far well over 39 million people, in the richest countries, have already received their first jab.
Allegedly in Africa the total number of people vaccinated so far stands at 25.

Based on those {alleged} figures where do people stand on this?
Should everyone get "fair shares" worldwide, even though it means your fellow countrymen may have to wait much longer for their shot.
Or lets get everybody sorted out in this country first before we turn our attentions outward.
It could be argued that "We are all in this together" and the pandemic should be attacked in every corner of the world simultaneously to stop the spread.
Or if we do the latter then more and more infected people from the "red" countries will filter into Britain {and other countries} and we would NEVER be free of Covid as our border laws are so lax.

There are approximately 21,000 people A DAY entering Britain. As it stands only a third of those are abiding by the lock down rules.
Those entering from {red} banned countries are getting round it by travelling to and arriving from non red countries.
People are STILL gathering, yesterdays news about breaking up a party for a one year old in Mansfield.
Possible shortages of vaccine, the Government say they are on top of it...yet at this moment in time the Astra Zenica vaccine is yes being manufactured in Oxford but it is then sent to GERMANY to be Bottled then sent back, just how much would it take to open our own bottling plant, it basically wouldn't, it could be bottled at source with the right machinery.
At this rate it is rumoured that very soon we will have more people that give injections than vaccine to be injected.


Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on February 09, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
It's a double edged sword really as, with countries that are suffering political unrest as well as those with huge corruption issues, how can anyone make sure that the help goes to everyone fairly and free of cost to the individuals?

It's a difficult one to decide on.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on February 10, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
I can't work how how they have put the lists together as it rolls out.
I can understand the care homes and staff, older generation etc but people like my daughter who has a serious medical problem is way down the list - All her staff have now had the vaccine, she depends on their support and ours.
If she got this virus and it badly affected her she doesn't get enough in Direct Payments to cover all her support. Would she then be moved to a hospital  when they could be cared for at home if they had someone with them --- there must be thousands like my daughter who would struggle if they should be really poorly with this virus.
This hasn't been thought out as well as what it could have been.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on February 19, 2021, 11:27:39 AM
The update is Britain has ordered and is to receive 400 million doses of vaccine, the outcome of this is that the P.M. is to give the excess doses, presumably after we all get our 2 doses, to developing countries..... sounds good.
It sounds a lot but nearly all the under developed countries have really massive populations so other countries are going to have to pitch in with more {or at least equal the amount} that Britain is claiming at the moment.

I heard someone say about easing the lock down {poss April} that, for Boris, this is his last chance to get it right, the phrase they used was that should he fail it's "Three strikes and your out".

All this talk of some people refusing to have the jab, obviously because of a lot of scaremongering, will obviously make it very difficult for this country to get a lid on this pandemic, especially with new strains popping up. Unfortunately slowly talking some of them round may not be fast enough even with the new t.v. commercial trying to convince some groups.
If it fails to convince them then there must be a call for tough{er} action, this is not the time for people to sit on the fence, your either having the jab or your not, wherever you are from, whatever your background, irrespective of the length of time some have spent in this country {even if you were born here} the fact remains the longer you refuse to be vaccinated the more "dangerous" you become, not just to the general public but to your family and friends. We should be sending out a message to these people that if you don't have the jab it will come back and bite you on the bum.
For example the suggestion of signs outside shops "No mask..No serve" another one that popped up on last nights Question time by an audience member, he suggested "No jab..No job", in other words make these people social pariahs.
You have to ask yourself... In our society if someone {for whatever reason} becomes a danger, to not only themselves but the population in general, then what does society expect our leaders and our lawmakers to do about it!

Just as an afterthought, I was in the hospital yesterday waiting for my wife who was having a few tests done {no! not that thankfully} and sat on the table near me was a box of disposable face masks. I picked it up and the side of the box it said Manufactured in Wuhan!!
Ironic or what.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on February 20, 2021, 12:46:48 AM
Just for the record, I passed the next level of my Ham license last month.  8)  (y)
73 DE 2E0IFY

Yep i'm the 2E0 with the IFY call sign LOL  O0 C:-) >:
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: kromercap on February 20, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Just for the record, I passed the next level of my Ham license last month.  8)  (y)
73 DE 2E0IFY

Yep i'm the 2E0 with the IFY call sign LOL  O0 C:-) >:

Congratulations mate. I've done that exam myself and know how tough it is.

Well done.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on February 23, 2021, 01:34:10 PM
:)) :D ;D 8)




Well now you will be waiting a long time for me to try that!  :))
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 08, 2021, 12:24:14 PM
Just got back from town, STILL amazed at the amount of "look I'm exempt" badges being worn by people who quite obviously are not taking this pandemic as seriously as I {and many others} are.

The wife called in at Savers on Packers row whilst I waited outside, and having a rough idea of Boris's Covid road map and who can open and when, was very surprised to see the cobblers opposite open! as was the gold shop opposite Birds confectioners shop whilst Birds were closed.
Quite obviously I can't see them flouting the rules so I'm assuming then that shops with only one member of staff must be allowed to open. 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 09, 2021, 12:35:55 AM
Hasn't Birds closed down. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 09, 2021, 09:29:18 AM
Hasn't Birds closed down. Forgive me if I'm wrong.


Just looked on their site Fly, they are closed all day Mondays, then from 9 till 2 the rest. We were in town late last week and called in the shop so I was pretty sure they are still open.
I usually call in there for something to have with my cuppa about dinner time, they are not cheap but it's good stuff. I used to call in Greggs when it was opposite Specsavers but don't go in the "new", one too much queuing.
 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 12, 2021, 04:07:55 PM
There's supposedly a marked increase in the number of vaccines we're due to receive in the next week or two, and gp surgeries and vaccination centres are expected to double their efforts to vaccinate people.

🤞
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 13, 2021, 10:49:07 AM
We had our second jab just over three weeks after our first so they are moving fast in some areas
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 17, 2021, 08:21:57 AM
So many E.U. countries have suspended the Astra Zenica {Oxford} jab for being "unsafe" all I can say to that is........

Well it's your loss s*d you then, more for us. Seventeen recorded cases of blood clots compared to the millions vaccinated, it doesn't even register on the percentage meter. Quite obviously these people had underlying health problems before the jab that probably went undetected. France has suspended A.Z. and it appears they are now getting their third spike of Corona virus.

The only downside to this is the anti jabbers will have a field day with this news. My advice is Oxford jabs for U.K. citizens and just let the rest of Europe get on with it.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 17, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
And - unsurprisingly - Ursula von der Leyen is now threatening to block exports of vaccines to countries (meaning the UK no doubt) who have markedly higher rollout of the vaccine.

OK, this smacks of the childish 'I'm going to take my ball in' mentality. If we up sh*t creek, then we'll make sure you (UK) are too.

I think they should concentrate on getting this disgraceful state of affairs sorted out and stop trying to point score.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 19, 2021, 05:55:05 PM
There's always some people who will try and make more of a situation than it is Alsatian.
I'm going to be a pin cushion this year as I have my Shingles jab in April.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Umpire on March 19, 2021, 07:33:31 PM
Had my Shingles jab last Monday OC.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 19, 2021, 08:15:42 PM
And - unsurprisingly - Ursula von der Leyen is now threatening to block exports of vaccines to countries (meaning the UK no doubt) who have markedly higher rollout of the vaccine.

OK, this smacks of the childish 'I'm going to take my ball in' mentality. If we up sh*t creek, then we'll make sure you (UK) are too.

I think they should concentrate on getting this disgraceful state of affairs sorted out and stop trying to point score.

Apparently the EU have looked at the AZ jab in isolation and, when compared against Pfizer, the side effects are comparable in both jabs.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 20, 2021, 12:50:15 AM
Had my AstraZeneca jab this morning.

Loving the new hair style. Never had any on my back before  :-* ;) 8) :P
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on March 20, 2021, 06:50:05 AM
Had my AstraZeneca jab this morning.

Loving the new hair style. Never had any on my back before  :-* ;) 8) :P

😂
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 20, 2021, 08:59:03 AM
It is alleged...............
                      The "better off" countries have clubbed together to help roll out the vaccine to under developed and developing countries. The U.K. is allegedly bankrolling this endeavour to the tune of £548 million. Thus far well over 39 million people, in the richest countries, have already received their first jab.
Allegedly in Africa the total number of people vaccinated so far stands at 25.

According to this mornings news {possibly due to the threat of a vaccine shortage among other things} it appears these better off countries have now changed their minds and the poorer countries WON'T be getting the much needed vaccines after all, among them is Britain.
With these 3rd waves of Covid hitting mainland Europe we will be able to book holidays but there will be nowhere to go.

M.P's doing a complete 180 who would have guessed it!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 20, 2021, 09:24:03 AM
I for one wouldn't think about arranging a holiday abroad at the moment, I wouldn't want to fly for a start and the situation is around Europe is still iffy.
Sticking to breaks in the UK.
We have a weekend booked in a Caravan with friends, a trip on a Steam Train to Scotland for the day plus a week in Skegvegas - depending on how things go of course!!
We still have our months cruise transferred from last year if it goes ahead but over the 25 years opf cruises I have seen many changes in cruising and this next one will be the biggest change ever - if it goes ahead.

We have vouchers for the Casa and several eating places yet to use

Will any of the above happen???
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: wollygobble on March 21, 2021, 04:25:55 PM
And - unsurprisingly - Ursula von der Leyen is now threatening to block exports of vaccines to countries (meaning the UK no doubt) who have markedly higher rollout of the vaccine.

OK, this smacks of the childish 'I'm going to take my ball in' mentality. If we up sh*t creek, then we'll make sure you (UK) are too.

I don't think the standoff is being helped by the self-congratulatory noises coming out of Downing Street all the time, which will be interpreted in the EU as a thumbing of noses and a chanting of "We've got the vaccine, nah nah-ni nah nah!".
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Fly on March 21, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
Friday had 1st jab.
Saturday tea time started to feel a bit depressed/down/unwell.
Woke up this morning and thought the roof had come down on me, ached everywhere, had to drag myself out of bed. Sat down stairs at 10am with a cuppa, heating on full, and my scarf on. Freezing cold. I've been eating and i've slowly been feeling better and better as the day went on.
Starting to slow down again now(8.45pm). Early night me thinks  :(
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on March 23, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
Well it's happening..........

Get your vaccination certificates on the "black market" only £150 in some cases, here's a thought wait your turn and get FREE jabs and a real certificate!!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 27, 2021, 08:42:06 PM
Friday had 1st jab.
Saturday tea time started to feel a bit depressed/down/unwell.
Woke up this morning and thought the roof had come down on me, ached everywhere, had to drag myself out of bed. Sat down stairs at 10am with a cuppa, heating on full, and my scarf on. Freezing cold. I've been eating and i've slowly been feeling better and better as the day went on.
Starting to slow down again now(8.45pm). Early night me thinks  :(

Oh dear Fly pleased to hear you began feeling better
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on March 27, 2021, 08:43:03 PM
Well it's happening..........

Get your vaccination certificates on the "black market" only £150 in some cases, here's a thought wait your turn and get FREE jabs and a real certificate!!

Are we getting the sticky foots from our GP ?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 02, 2021, 10:53:20 AM
Well the early signs of the easing of lockdown don't look promising........

Parks and recreation grounds packed to the gunnels with people {notice only the young!} getting drunk,dropping litter, fighting, even a case of rape reported......Ah yes nice to see were getting back to normality!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 06, 2021, 12:08:35 PM
Just seen on the news this morning that people fear a "two tier" system if vaccine passports are needed to be able to mix socially and so therefore unfair.

My answer to that couldn't be more clear.....GOOD I'M ALL FOR IT!, if a two tier system is what's needed to keep me and my wife, who will have had our second jabs by the beginning of next month, safe from those people who flatly refuse to be vaccinated, or believe Covid only happens to others, or worst still believe it's a hoax then expect to mingle as if nothings happened, it's just not right. 
You only have to read my previous post to know there are many out there who, basically through sheer stubbornness and ignorance, will by default keep this pandemic going and those very same people will be the first to bleat about not being able to holiday or meet friends for drinks and they won't have enough brain cells to realise it's THEIR fault.

Lets have a two tier system, lets have Covid passports, because I don't want to mingle with these {dangerous} people.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 06, 2021, 01:27:44 PM
Hear hear!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 09, 2021, 10:06:50 AM
Listening to the news today it is going to be expensive to go abroad for holidays due to the possibility of having to have tests before and after leaving the Uk and - paying for them ourselves!

I had a conversation with a nurse from our GP practice this week and they are as much in the dark as we are about the 'Passports'
Meanwhile insurance appears to be another confusion and worry
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 12, 2021, 12:31:56 PM
So this is it..........D day.

I like many am in dire need of a haircut, I have just drove past our local barbers and, as expected, there's a queue. As usual social distancing is not being adhered to, there's about a dozen waiting outside to go in and they are bunched together like bananas and at such close quarters I don't think I saw one wearing a mask.
I also drove past one of our pubs getting everything ready for the "off". All I can see for the next week is wall to wall vomiting as drinkers virtually go berserk {nice haircuts though}.

My opinion is the mindless are going to force us back into lockdown and I can't see any sane way of getting us from under this cloud, we are going to be lockdown ease lockdown ease probably for the next decade. Sorry to be on such a downer but I and my wife are not in the Springtime of our years, we don't know how much time there is left and we don't want to spend it being virtual prisoners.

Lets hope that the D in D day doesn't stand for d*ckheads.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 12, 2021, 07:33:05 PM
I really couldn't understand when anyone would want to stay up until after midnight just to get an alcoholic drink. Are they really THAT desperate :-?

My hair appointment was booked just after it was announced when they could reopen, it feels so much better now  :)
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 16, 2021, 07:58:58 PM
As I feared...now lockdown is easing and people can think of "getting away" {not abroad} which means MILLIONS of holidaymakers that usually travel abroad now are wanting to holiday here, a staycation if you will, the inevitable will happen.... not enough spaces.
This is why I booked early, a few days down South in May and later in the year a few days on the Northeast coast, but there are rumours that certain people are contacting holiday sites, people it seems who think they are above everyone else, only to be told "Sorry fully booked" are then attempting to gazump guests that have already booked by, in some cases, offering DOUBLE the price to the owners in order to get in obviously at the expense of some innocent guest looking forward to their hols....THIS STINKS!!

These shenanigans may even appeal to some [unscrupulous] guest houses/hotels/camp site owners who, through no fault of their own, has lost business these past fifteen months or so but turning booking a holiday into an auction and letting people down is not on, so if you HAVE booked and are awaiting your holiday date I think it would be prudent to contact where you are staying and just double check your booking and what your getting, ask for written confirmation possibly by E mail.

 
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 17, 2021, 09:46:18 AM
Sorastro, we are still a little cautious here.
Our next ( ok first break since 2019 due to Covid) will be in June.
We have two separate weekends booked one with friends in their caravan, the other is a two night hotel stay as hubby will ( hopefully) get his 70th birthday treat from last year on the Steam Train journey.
After that it is September again in a self catering bungalow.

The biggy for us will be at the end of the year when we ( hopefully) go on the months cruise which we should have been on last year for our wedding anniversary.
I am not expecting it to be 'cruising as we know it' though!!

Apart from the above we also have numerous vouchers gifted to us one is for the Casa the others for eating places - will we be able to use them? We will the Casa as I have spoken with them but unsure about the others.
Is the Soulville Steak house re-opening does anyone know?
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 17, 2021, 11:08:34 AM
We've no holidays planned until next year. We'll wait and see how the land lies and, if all is well, book a last minute break if possible. If not then it'll be a week at Argate!
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 18, 2021, 05:57:25 PM
We've no holidays planned until next year. We'll wait and see how the land lies and, if all is well, book a last minute break if possible. If not then it'll be a week at Argate!


Alsatian, I don't blame you TBH. If we hadn't got the holidays already booked I doubt we would have bothered much this year. However the option is to transfer - so ---
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Sorastro on April 23, 2021, 01:55:35 PM
Just booked my 2nd jab up Clay Cross, Star wars day 10:00 a.m.
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Alsatian on April 23, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Just booked my 2nd jab up Clay Cross, Star wars day 10:00 a.m.

That'll be May the 4th then!

I had mine last Tuesday at Stubley Lane Surgery, Dronfield.

I never had any side effects with my first (Pfizer) jab, but this time my arm was quite sore and I had a headache for a couple of days.

Small price to pay 👍
Title: Re: Covid - 19
Post by: Old Cruser on April 23, 2021, 06:04:31 PM
Daughter has her second Jab on may day at the Casa.
She was fine after the first one so hoping she's the same after the second - I know several people who have suffered more after the second one.