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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Pete on May 02, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
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The daughter of the jailed Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko has said her mother has been "brutally beaten" in prison, as more European governments announced they were boycotting next month's European football championship in protest.
Leaders of Austria, Belgium and Germany are all supporting the boycott and are refusing to attend - should Cameron join them?
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The words 'Cameron' and 'Brutally Beaten' sound good.
Give the scrote a kick from me ;)
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I note that this "boycott" seems to go no further than not sending some freebooting ministers off to watch the games. That'll teach those dastardly Ukrainians!!
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I know what you mean Stuart, but I try hard not to be that cynical... :P
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I agree with Stuart, Cameron not attending isn't going to put any pressure on anyone.
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Don't be too quick to judge - this story is starting to gather momentum.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/03/yulia-tymoshenko-ukraine-euro-2012 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/03/yulia-tymoshenko-ukraine-euro-2012)
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As predicted - UK government boycotts Euro 2012 over Ukraine treatment of Tymoshenko - Downing Street confirms no officials will attend Euro championship games in Ukraine over jailed opposition leader
http://bit.ly/KRfiRl (http://bit.ly/KRfiRl)
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Thats shown you Ukraine!!
Why not ban them from Eurovision Song Contest at the same time. :)
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Had they been in the Commonwealth, of course, The Queen would have smiled, and shook their hands.
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So, when a female politician is thrown in jail and beaten we should just make jokes about it?
As Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - or take the piss.
To not care is understandable - there is a lot to be said for it. To take the mickey out of such a situation is plumbing new depths of ignorance.
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Various governmental (collective) pathetic protest as such are meaningless.
Does anyone think that an abstinence of politicians during a fairly drab football competition is going to change the way the Ukranians deal out their form of justice.
i don't think so.
If they were really serious about this, why not take the Euro' competition elsewhere.
Because they have not got the balls (not footballs you understand)!
Their economy would suffer, furthermore I don't think we should be going there in the first place, due to possible racist issues-Platini says anyone who is racially abused and walks off the pitch will be booked - yet he says referees have the authority to abandon the game if there are racist chants.
I can see trouble ahead-and I don't like it
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Platini also said he wasn't to blame if the racist hooligans caused trouble just because they awarded the tournament to countries with a history of violence.
He's positioning himself well to take over from Blatter
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So, when a female politician is thrown in jail and beaten we should just make jokes about it?
As Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - or take the piss.
To not care is understandable - there is a lot to be said for it. To take the mickey out of such a situation is plumbing new depths of ignorance.
So what's your solution to this political situation I wonder? what should we do? What can we do-that will have any effect whatsoever.
Apart from taking the piss? (Don't know if that was pointed at me)
To intimate that no one cares what is happening to this female is shameful.
But what can anyone do?
Me or you nothing. Governments perhaps in their protracted uncommitted ways - spineless, not able, or dare not.
Comment by all means Pete, but don't detract from folks who can't make sensible suggestions, ..".Plumbing new depths of ignorance" is quite a strong dialogue if you wish further discussion on this subject.
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We'll find out soon enough
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As I understand it, The Govt. have said they won't attend any group matches. But they haven't ruled out attending matches later on if England qualify.
I don't think this is about Cameron making a point of principle, just jumping on a bandwagon as he so often does.
If Cameron was really concerned about the political situation, or cultural issues such as racism, maybe he and his fellow EU leaders could stop pouring millions of Euros of EU support into the country unless it was in exchange for clear changes.
Its easy to make the "grand-standing gestures", but ask Cameron and the other useless European politicians to take decisive action on an issue, well England have got more chance of winning the tournament than that happening.