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General Category => Rants => Topic started by: Pete on June 05, 2012, 08:38:59 PM
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"Lycamobile has given Conservatives more than £300,000 in last nine months, but has paid no coporation tax for three years"
"Lycamobile, an £88m company based in Canary Wharf, gave more than £130,000 in donations between January and March this year, the latest Electoral Commission records show. This was on top of previous donations at the end of last year.
"Insiders from the company have confirmed that most of the last quarter's money was spent on Boris Johnson's successful campaign to be re-elected as London mayor. Johnson has publicly praised Lycamobile's sim cards and mobile telephone technology, and the company's founder, Subaskaran Allirajah, has attended Tory party fundraising events with David Cameron."
As I mentioned before - bent b*stards... >:(
http://bit.ly/NAtOvU (http://bit.ly/NAtOvU)
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I cannot understand why a normal working person would want to vote for anyone but Labour, those who vote Tory are probably brainwashed by the Murdoch media.
The socialist way to boost the economy is to put money into the pockets of the normal working person. This is not anti business, it is common sense that if people have money ti spend on other than the bare essentials they boost businesses.
The Tory way is to attempt to boost businesses from the top down. Putting people out of work is a sacrifice to increase profits. They opposed minimum legislation during their last term in office because it always suited them for people to be desperate for people to take any job at any price. They are now stuck with the minimum wage so they now want people to do "voluntary" work for their dole. So-called work experience for free in the vain hope a job may come from it.
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I cannot understand why a normal working person would want to vote for anyone but Labour, those who vote Tory are probably brainwashed by the Murdoch media.
Because like many politicians, you fail to listen. If it wasn't for your ideology maybe you would understand, but your political leanings prevent it, which is why millions of people are turning against politicians of all colours.
And as for Murdoch, his love affairs with politicians were just as strong under Blair.
So I think you are proving Chris right, no real policies to offer, just more Tory bashing.
The socialist way to boost the economy is to put money into the pockets of the normal working person.
By taxing them more, and when that can't be done, by getting ever increasing amounts of debt, bringing the country almost to bankruptcy.
Please name me one country that has had its economy boom over a long period under a socialist Govt.....er....er.....er.......
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>> Pete, with all due respect - the torie bashing is getting a bit boring.
I admit that's how it looks, but if you look back over, say, the last five years of my posts on CF and now on here you will see that I heavily criticised Labour too. Especially Tony Blair, who I consider to be a war criminal.
If I come across any story where I consider there is any example of wrong-doing, I will make my feelings known.
Bottom line is that I dislike politicians generally, and rich politicians even more so. And when the country is in such a mess, I don't think abandoning pensioners, cutting care to people with ill health and taking away what little support there is for young people - whilst lowering taxes on the very rich, is the way to go.
What I do find boring is when people on the left or on the right spout the same old doctorine(s) time and time again and nothing improves.
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Then, in that case, they must be a very generous company - all those years making no profit and when they finally do, they give away £300,000 to the Conservative party.
Still, if it gets free advertising from Mad Boris, it's probably more of an investment than a donation.
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Agree with you there Chris - Labour has massive faults too - and when I read about them, I'll comment on them too.
The reason I seem to be anti Conservative at the mo is because their sleaze is more prevalent than Labour's sleaze. Also they have power at the moment and don't seem capable of doing anything about our financial situation.
Not my fault that the last two years is dominated by the Conservatives plus Murdoch, plus Levenson, plus Hunt, plus Warsi, plus Rebekah, etc etc.
They've brought it on themselves...
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>> They can't poke holes in the Tory strategy.
I think they can - no growth and into double dip recession.
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Come on Chris, its all the bankers fault. ;)
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Yep! What Kev said! :)) :)) :))
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And without stating why this is the fault of Tory policy that's just pointing out the state we are in, not why it is this administrations fault for it being the case.
There are an awful lot of reasons outside this administrations reach that have contributed, and continue to contribute to our stagnating economy.
Id like to hear from labour what specifically they suggest should be done differently to bring about change.
They have no viable solutions, they just say that labour must be right because the Tories are wrong. No substance and no policies imho.
There were a lot of reasons outside the administrations control as to why we went into recession in the first place. That didn't stop the Tories bashing Gordon Brown. Why should they do anything different now?
Labour would argue that they do have viable alternatives, they believe in spending to stimulate the economy for growth. Whether you believe that policy will work obviously depends on which side of the divide you are on.
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Difference being that Gordon Brown ran the economy while it was booming, (again, mainly for reasons other than simple domestic policies), but rather than saving some of that money, or investing it in infrastructure, he wasted it all, still having to rely on debt to pay the bills, and even sold off the nations gold at a fraction of what its worth now.
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So that's it then is it? We're screwed?
Current economic measures aren't working and you consider the alternative unlikely to...
Nothing anyone here, or in the House of Commons, is bringing what this country needs - confidence.
No confidence in Osborne's measures and no confidence in speculating to accumulate?
Well I say nonsense, the British businessmen could turn this charade around if they were given money to invest - but the banks aren't up for it - they just want the profit without the risk.
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I rest my case. :)