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General Category => Fun Stuff => Topic started by: Pete on June 11, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
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And the first family to benefit from this initiative are the Camerons of Downing Street, London who left their eight year old daughter in the pub and didn't realise she wasn't with them until they got home…
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http://bit.ly/Kf6MME (http://bit.ly/Kf6MME)
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Me thinks some Special Branch close protection officer is up for a kicking.
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Obviously. It couldn't possibly the responsibility of the parents...
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@ Pete of course it is!! The buck always stop with the parents in my book - look at the Maddy McCann disapearance - no excuse --- and what was an 8 year old doing in a pub?
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Obviously Not !!!!!
Just on the main topic, have you done the maths?
They reckon around 120,000 families one way or another cost us £9bn!!!
That's £75m each!
If we just handed over the £450m and told them to emigrate that would still be nearly £4m each
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Thing that annoys me is that some families openly 'flount and get what they can' They get away with it as well! >:( Whilst others who are just as needy have to soldier on.
From what I have heard the 'plan' is to get these 'needy families' up and running to be more self sufficient. The government are trying to 'break the mould' of families who have lived this way over generation - will it work?????
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I think they are including benefits in that aren't they, thing is not all families who claim benefits are scroungers
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>> thing is not all families who claim benefits are scroungers
And we should never, ever forget that.
If a person works all their life and pays National Insurance, then find themselves out of a job, they should NOT be labelled scroungers. They are merely collecting on an insurance policy that they have paid for.
It's just too easy for the flog 'em and hang 'em brigade to make sweeping statements to rouse the bogey man...
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Quite right Pete.
The amount of money spent by social services alone must be hefty if you consider all the in-put they give, so maybe not just for 'the out of work?'
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Figures are a little out there. £9Bn between 120,000 is £75,000 not £75m.
I've got a billion as 1,000,000,000,000??
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Wish I had a billion JR
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Wish I knew where my kids where :)) :)) :))
The family flitted last week, and I still don't know where to ;D
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There you are JR - you now have a big ego ??? and that's official ;)
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>> thing is not all families who claim benefits are scroungers
And we should never, ever forget that.
If a person works all their life and pays National Insurance, then find themselves out of a job, they should NOT be labelled scroungers. They are merely collecting on an insurance policy that they have paid for.
It's just too easy for the flog 'em and hang 'em brigade to make sweeping statements to rouse the bogey man...
But the other side of the coin is that some people on benefits are just lazy low-lifes. A lot of these "troubled families" and the bleedin' hearts that support them, blame their troubles on poverty, which IMHO is boll***s. Millions of people have been brought up through poverty, me included, but still don't become criminals, drug uses etc, and are taught respect and good manners. Personally if people are to**ers, as Chris refers to them, I think its more about attitude than lack of money, and there for giving them more money isn't the solution....maybe taking some of their benefits away might be!
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Yeah, you mentioned that before Kev...
In fact so many people are obsessed with the scroungers, they forget the genuine cases of hardship that some people face after years and years of work and paying NI.
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I called at a local shop today for supplies ;)
Before walking into the shop I saw a few guys outside the pub next door having a fag.
3 of them saw me and gave me an, "Eyup Fly"
I've been dirving a taxi 17odd years since the pit shut. I know for fact, none of these 3 have worked since.
Unless there working on the side.
Who's the idiot !!
I've always paid my NI, what can I get back. Squat diddly !!
@Pete, yes I know our posts crossed
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Yeah, you mentioned that before Kev...
In fact so many people are obsessed with the scroungers, they forget the genuine cases of hardship that some people face after years and years of work and paying NI.
Just showing there are 2 sides to the debate that you started. And no one is forgetting the genuine cases of hardship...thats the point, Pete, those who are in genuine need end up getrting less, because so much is taken by those who shouldn't get anything, as per Fly's post maybe.