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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Pete on July 12, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
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I went down Brampton this evening to see the proposed plans for the new development around Robbo's Walton Works.
I had the big talk from the PR guys there and one of them gave me a full set of A3 posters that they had on display.
I'll put them online tomorrow as downloadable .pdf documents - don't worry about viruses, I'm on a Mac.
One of the nicest things about the meeting was that Mr Johnson, whose ironmongers site is right on the corner, was there chatting with the developers. He is in his 80's now - and his business will stay. :)
Anyway, here's a sample of the stuff I got, scaled down for the forums, but the full size posters (A3 and A4) will be online for anyone who wants to see them, tomorrow morning.
(http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/1-a4.jpg)
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If they do something similar to the Victoria Quays development in sheffield, it could be good.
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I was involved in the early discussion on this so its been 6-7 years in the making to my knowledge.
They were talking in terms of opening the river up and making it a feature of the development at one time, wonder if that's still the plan?
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Here's some more images of Walton Works Development
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Walton Works development - downloadable pdf files @ A3
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/1-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/1-a3.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/2-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/2-a3.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/3-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/3-a3.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/4-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/4-a3.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/5-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/5-a3.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/6-a3.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/6-a3.pdf)
Walton Works development - downloadable pdf files @ A4
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/1-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/1-a4.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/2-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/2-a4.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/3-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/3-a4.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/4-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/4-a4.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/5-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/5-a4.pdf)
http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/6-a4.pdf (http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/walton-works/6-a4.pdf)
Sorry the scans aren't brilliant, I only have an A4 scanner these days.
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I also found out that the old shop and terraced houses on Chatsworth Road will come down. The ones to the right of Brampton Ale House.
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Just wondering if any of these new developments around town will incorporate taxi ranks ?
If the pedestrianisation of the town centre gets the go ahead, it might help 'our' business.
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Fly, I don't know if thats optimism or naivety, I doubt the council would have thought one iota about your business, or anyone else's...they are too busy lining their own pockets.
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Don't get you k4 - how are the council lining their own pockets?
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Empty deserted land = no council tax.
Stick a few hundred flats on it = £1000's
Especially from a project someone else is paying for.
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But surely that is putting money into the public purse - hardly "lining their own pockets".
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@pete
I posted my thought's, right/wrong I don't know.
I didn't mean I agreed with K4's opinion of lining pockets ;)
@K4
You should know me by now.
optimism or naivety
Neither, it probably won't happen. Try wishful thinking :(
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Don't get you k4 - how are the council lining their own pockets?
All sorts of ways, they give the go ahead to projects they want irrespective of the outcome, eg the idea of another cinema at Northern Gateway.
These projects lead to , for example, work being carried out to highways which will be privately financed instead of council funded, linked schemes and operations, tax benefits, etc, all adding to the councils income, but without any consideration of the loses from any scheme, I wasn't accusing any individual of fraud if thats how it reads.
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Sorry then, my mistake. I misunderstood your post. :-[
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All sorts of ways, they give the go ahead to projects they want irrespective of the outcome, eg the idea of another cinema at Northern Gateway.
These projects lead to , for example, work being carried out to highways which will be privately financed instead of council funded, linked schemes and operations, tax benefits, etc, all adding to the councils income, but without any consideration of the loses from any scheme, I wasn't accusing any individual of fraud if thats how it reads.
I've said this before the highways issues is chcken and egg. Let's take T**** they funded the highways 'improvements' linked to building their new store. But if they hadn't built the store there wouldn't have been the need to 'improve' the roads.
Incidentally if you go on Chesterfield post there's an interview with ohn Burrows where he says the experts tell him there is a need for another cinema.
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All sorts of ways, they give the go ahead to projects they want irrespective of the outcome, eg the idea of another cinema at Northern Gateway.
These projects lead to , for example, work being carried out to highways which will be privately financed instead of council funded, linked schemes and operations, tax benefits, etc, all adding to the councils income, but without any consideration of the loses from any scheme, I wasn't accusing any individual of fraud if thats how it reads.
Surely it is better for a business to provide a new road (and I don't mean private toll roads) than it to come out of the public purse?
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I've said this before the highways issues is chcken and egg. Let's take T**** they funded the highways 'improvements' linked to building their new store. But if they hadn't built the store there wouldn't have been the need to 'improve' the roads.
Incidentally if you go on Chesterfield post there's an interview with ohn Burrows where he says the experts tell him there is a need for another cinema.
I'm not against the principle of developers being asked to fund extra work additional to the development if its proportionate. If a developer of a large 200 house site is asked to build a crossing, thats one thing. If its a self builder building 1 house, its unreasonable, and stifles investment in either case.
As for the cinema, I'm sure the current cinema could find experts that say another cinema is not needed, experts will say whatever their paymasters want them to say. But getting back to Flys point, if experts have been consulted, then surely there will be taxi ranks, along with better bus stops and parking facilities......in fact, I'm sure experts would have been consulted before the council spent god knows how much on a failed re-branding exercise.
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I would have thought someone else would have wondered why we need two supermarkets next to each other in Brampton.
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Competition ?