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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pete on September 07, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
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Report published next week is expected to reveal widespread failures by South Yorkshire police over 1989 disaster
"The families, who have protested for years at the way legal processes were conducted after the disaster, expect the report to show conclusively that police refused to accept responsibility for the disaster and instead falsely claimed drunk and ticketless supporters were to blame."
About time too! And I'd like to see the The Sun newspaper add their apology for the appalling lies they put out too.
http://bit.ly/RjYq9K (http://bit.ly/RjYq9K)
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The *** newspaper have already printed an apology many years ago but the scumbag editor McKenzie has subsequently claimed that he was ordered to do it by Murdoch for business reasons rather than it being a genuine apology.
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Why am I not surprised at that Jon... :( >:(
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Perhaps because your opinion of Murdoch is at the same level as a rattlesnakes stomach?
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Got it in one. :))
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mrmq1/Hillsborough_Searching_for_the_Truth/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mrmq1/Hillsborough_Searching_for_the_Truth/)
15 minutes 10 in, Pete, you might find interesting
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Just for clarity I'm not sure why the film doesn't make it clear but Margaret Aspinall the 'mum' featured in the programme is also the chair of the Hillsborough Family Support Group.
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As already posted on Facebook
As far as real Liverpool fans are concerned todays report changes nothing. We KNEW the police had lied, We KNEW the press had perpetuated those lies, we KNEW the coroner was wrong to make 3.15 the cut off point for evidence and finally and most important we KNEW the fans were not to blame. The ONLY thing that this report changes is that now the authorities have the ammunition to prosecute people like Duckinfield, Murray, Bettison and Mackenzie. Only if this happens will this report change anything.
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Agree with you Jon - they should go after the guilty and prosecute them.
Added: You can include Boris Johnson in that list.
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Just seen this under the headline "The front page The Sun should run tomorrow"
I reckon that about sums it up
(http://www.ichesterfield.co.uk/images/liar.jpg)
Hat tip to Patrick.
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Having read the reactions to the released documents, NOTHING has been said about
the SO CALLED SAFETY CERTIFICATE Issued, WHO issued it, and more importantly WHY.
Those PENS should NEVER have been There, without the proper Planning of entrances and Exits
being in Place.
Also, I read that they want to prosecute those that lied, mislead everybody and contributed to
those deaths.... too right, but what about Thatcher, is she going to be prosecuted, is she going
to be stripped of her title, HAS she APOLOGISED, is she going to admit that that those deaths
were wrong, or that she USED those findings to ATTACK football and brought in all seater stadiums,and
how much money was wasted, in fact has ANY of that GOD DAMNED Government at that time SAID anything
towards how wrong they were.
The Simple ANSWER IS NO.
Then They Wonder Why the ordinary People of this Country Think Politicians are TOTAL LYING SH*T.
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Stolen from FaceBook. Patrick lol
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/sunappology.jpg)
Interesting read here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher)
There's a current running theme appearing here. IMHO :-(
EDIT: Yes I notice there's been new posts, but I didn't sit here for 1/2 hour, not to post my reply.
Which incidentally blends with the other posts.
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>> Stolen from FaceBook. Patrick lol
I credited Patrick with finding it Sherlock. LOL
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Steady on Kenty - her fan club posts on here ;) :))
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Steady on Kenty - her fan club posts on here ;) :))
>; >; >; >; >;........ :)) :)) :)) :))
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Suppose it's too much to hope that the guilty will be charged?
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Having skim read the report I suspect that if anything corporate manslaughter charges will be brought against South Yorks Police, the Ambulance service, Sheffield CC and Sheffield Wednesday. Not sure if the FA will be similarly charged.
Charges of Perverting the course of justice could be brought against various members of the South Yorks police up to and including the then Chief Constable.
You also have to question the involvement of West Midlands Police who allegedly didn't find the evidence of evidence tampering when they conducted their enquiries.
I'd also love to think that charges of some sort could be brought against that scumbag MacKenzie but I suspect he will hide behind the press agency reports.
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/15exq10.jpg)
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try looking at the front of the Daily Telegraph!!!!!!!
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Is anyone here surprised that Bettison lied and attempted to frame the Liverpool supporters for the tradgedy? I'm not.
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Just seen on the news that South Yorkshire police's behaviour in the miners strike may be investigated too.
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Much of it already has. Most of the cases surrounding Orgreave were dropped due to ahem 'inconsistencies' in the police evidence.
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@ Kent Maggie has probably got away with all that and more in her time, as you say many think that politicians are TOTAL LYING SH*T. -- They are!
She was probably one of the most ruthless, certainly in my time on this earth, I remember how my parents struggled as my dad worked for the coalboard and was on strike during that that time.
I as a young married women found myself helping to feed my parents and two youngers brothers.
All who were involved in this terrible cover up should be held responsible including Maggie - but I suspect 'she' will be absolved from it. Not too sure why she should though - unless at this stage in her life she isn't of sound mind. (lost touch about her TBH).
All this is of no help for the families who lost loved ones except for them to get justice for what happened all those years ago.,
rant over --- you know i have little time for politicians!! >:(
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In Maggie's case its playing with words.
Did the government change the contents of any documents? Probably not
Did they turn a blind eye to the fact that SYP were doing that? Probably yes
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Majority of them are corrupt buggers at the best of times --- can't be doing with them
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Quite a sickening read here !
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hillsborough-policeman-whose-statement-was-altered-1324777 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hillsborough-policeman-whose-statement-was-altered-1324777)
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Is the phrase "live by the sword die by the sword"?
Kelvin MacKenzie doorstepped over Hillsborough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4oiBxXfNE#ws)
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>> Is the phrase "live by the sword die by the sword"?
Yes :)
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Cannal 5 at 8.oopm tonight The truth about Hillsborough.
Not sure if it's a re-run?
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Cannal 5 at 8.oopm tonight The truth about Hillsborough.
Not sure if it's a re-run?
Not Seen it, The Fact that Sheffield Wednesday Did not Have Safety certificate, Sheffield Council Did Not Check, or let it lapse,
The FA Allowed Sheffield Wednesday to Operate Without a Safety Certificate Says it ALL.
To CAGE People In Is NOT HUMANE
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Anyone else seen that Kelvin MacKenzie is demanding an apology from South Yorks police for feeding him the lies that he then printed under his 'The Truth' Headline?
Even in their glory days the S*N couldn't have made that one up!!
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If McKenLie feels so strongly about it, he can go to court to secure compensation. SYP will have to tell the truth, on oath. But then, so would he.
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I doubt that odious toad would have any issue with perjuring himself!!!
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Norman Bettison resigns
"West Yorkshire force accepts resignation following MP Maria Eagle's claims that Bettison 'boasted' of smearing dead fans"
About time too.
http://bit.ly/SrYXDK (http://bit.ly/SrYXDK)
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Would like to pass this message on from Brian Willoughby (formerly of the Strawbs):
"Cathryn Craig and I have written a sensitive song of encouragement for
the survivors and families of the Hillsborough tragedy victims.
We have been in touch with BBC Merseyside's Caroline Dunlop and Sue Owen and also Margaret Aspinall of
The Hillsborough Families Support Group.
50% of our download royalties from the single, will be donated to Margaret's organisation.
"Time Has Proved You Right" by Cathryn Craig & Brian Willoughby is now available on iTunes...
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/time-has-proved-you-right/id572068368?i=572069156&uo=4
and as an Amazon MP3 as well as being downloadable from Spotify.
We've recorded an interview with Merseyside's Morning Show presenter Sean Styles
for broadcast this week.
Allan Watkiss did a wonderful piece on the song on his BBC Radio Sheffield show on Sunday.
All help greatly appreciated!"
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