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Title: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 12, 2012, 05:10:38 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/11/barry-thew-eight-months-prison-offensive-t-shirt-fiona-bone-nicola-hughes_n_1957427.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/11/barry-thew-eight-months-prison-offensive-t-shirt-fiona-bone-nicola-hughes_n_1957427.html)

It's in bad taste to wear this shirt at a time when 2 police women had just been murdered but isn't this acting in a similar manner to the Middle East or former Eastern Bloc countries that the West has always condemned for clamping down on freedom of speech? Wouldn't a fine have been sufficient?
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: therealjr on October 12, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
Absolutely 110% NOT.
Freedom of speech gives you the ability to criticise the government or say that the Police are acting in a heavy handed way (as many communities often do after riots) or protest about things like Animal rights or Nuclear Arms.
It doesn't give you the right to make offensive obscene comments about the deaths of two hard working community police officers.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Fly on October 12, 2012, 06:05:07 PM
I like humorous t-shirts, even slightly crude ones, but that's just a bit over the line even for me.
The article says it was over another incident with the police, but really bad timing to wear that one.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2012, 06:09:18 PM
Whatever the reason, the man's a prat and is asking for trouble with that t shirt.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 12, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
Agree it's pretty sick though he says it's about a different incident. But is jail going too far? Sounds like he was already on a suspended sentence so maybe there's more to it.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Fly on October 12, 2012, 07:06:47 PM
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He was sentenced to four months in jail and received an additional four months after he admitted breaching the terms of a previous suspended jail term

Just another loud mouth waste of space IMHO

There's means and ways to protest. That isn't one !
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 12, 2012, 07:41:10 PM
How long before police come knocking for things people write on Facebook or twitter................or Chesterfield Online?
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
There is currently major debate re what people say on Twitter or Facebook and I expect there to be some consensus in the near future.

>> ............. or Chesterfield Online? Well, thats me buggered then!  :))
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Fly on October 12, 2012, 07:56:27 PM
Pigs, is another slang name for the police.
Usually by people who have a problem with authority !
The pigs are the people who uphold this countries laws.
I don't like some of the laws the pigs uphold, but it's not the pigs fault.
They don't make the laws, the pigs just just do their job.

Is this post offensive ?
I don't think so.

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How long before police come knocking for things people write on Facebook or twitter................or Chesterfield Online?

Let's see.
Respect to the police and the armed forces  O0
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2012, 08:05:45 PM
I'm not so sure calling the police p*gs is a good idea - I think they are, by and large, a good bunch of people.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 12, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
Sticks & stones........

Quite often people escape prison for violent assaults
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2012, 08:17:19 PM
>>  Quite often people escape prison for violent assaults

Now that is wrong. Criminals that assault folks either in their homes or on the streets should go down.

Surely the fundamentals of policing should be security for law abiding citizens.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Fly on October 12, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
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Quite often people escape prison for violent assaults
That's down to the law. If the law is an ass then it needs changing.

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I'm not so sure calling the police p*gs is a good idea - I think they are, by and large, a good bunch of people.
Respect to them for doing the job they do.

I don't for one minute think I'm gonna get arrested for my post ;-)
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: therealjr on October 12, 2012, 10:03:09 PM
How long before police come knocking for things people write on Facebook or twitter................or Chesterfield Online?

if it's offensive they already do!!!
There's a difference between freedom of speech and being offensive it's just that you left wing liberal types want to muddy the waters to score political points.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 12, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
Nothing party political about my comments the judiciary is independent of government, or it should be or am I being naive?
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: therealjr on October 13, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Nothing party political about my comments the judiciary is independent of government, or it should be or am I being naive?

So next time somebody lands up in court on fox hunting charges and only gets a fine you are going to blame the judiciary are you?
How come the extradition of the Derbyshire man to the US isn't the fault of the judiciary?
Naive no just as usual twisting things to a political end that you don't think through because you are slavishly following a party line rather than thinking for yourself.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 13, 2012, 06:42:37 PM
I've not brought politics into this thread so don't really know what you're getting at.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: therealjr on October 13, 2012, 07:59:49 PM
The fact that you don't believe the comments you are making are political pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Fly on October 13, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
Sorry JR, you've lost me on this one, or is it all totally above my head  q?
Title: Re: Jailed for offensive tee shirt
Post by: Slacker on October 13, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
It is frustrating when the law prevents the courts from giving someone and adequate sentence but it doesn't usually work the other way round, the government / lawmakers do not normally say what the least someone can get punished is. I was prompted by a debate on Radio Two where views were mixed