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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Slacker on April 18, 2013, 07:03:48 AM
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How will people vote in the County Council election (and borough by elections where applicable) ?
How does that compare with other recent elections?
Interesting mix of parties this year with several Independents and UKIP in Chesterfield and Socialists Against The Cuts in several Bolsover electoral divisions. Also complication of boundary changes so county divisions are no longer 2 borough wards as they previously were in most cases.
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How will people vote in the County Council election (and borough by elections where applicable) ?
Same as always. By going to a polling station and putting a cross on a piece of paper next to my preferred candidate. ;D
ps Was this topic REALLY that interesting that you had to post it twice?
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I probably won't. When I've tried to contact my borough councillors, neither of them replied and my county councilor might just as well not exist. I haven't heard from any of them since the last elections and have never seen their names in the DT as having achieved anything; they're all a waste of space as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately the remaining candidates are from parties I either despise, don't trust or have policies I don't agree with. The independents have failed to convince me I should vote for them so it's probably a 'None of the above' - very disappointing as it'll be the first time since I've been able to vote that I won't.
In any case, I think local councillors should only be allowed to serve for a maximum of three terms and should be required to provide evidence of the positive things they've done for their communities when being re-selected, which shouldn't be automatic.
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I'll probably vote LibDem for the first time in my life. I had a good chat with one of their foot soldiers the other evening and they seemed happy to discuss anything with me. Unlike Labour's recent track record of not talking to me, not answering questions, etc. Plus their intention to completely ruin the whole Queens Park leisure/sport facilities, borrowing more money and, by the looks of it, ending the provision of a running track in Chesterfield.
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I might have voted Lib Dem if they hadn't hopped into bed with the Tories and formed the coalition. In doing so they irreparably damaged their credibility and I no longer feel they can be trusted - a shame as I've met several of them locally, have delivered for them and have a lot of time for them as individuals. Unfortunately they're the ones who will suffer as a result of Clegg and Co's lust for power.
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With respect, the last two posts are indicative of what is wrong with local politics.
Pete, feel free to vote Lib dem if you wih but the outcome of the May 2nd elections won't have any consequence with regard to the QPSC/Annexe issue.
We are voting for the Derbyshire County Council elections*, the authority responsible for (amongst other things) Education, Highways and Social Services.
Big Dave: Again the people who are best served to run the county, those who understand local issues and local people probably have no resemblence whatsoever to the people who go to Westminster and run the country. People getting the two mixed up are why we end up with poor councils elected because of national issues.
I remember many years ago staffing a polling station for a by election to Staveley Town Council probably the lowest rung of the government ladder. One woman came in and announced that she had voted Labour because 'she wanted to get rid of that b100dy woman (3 guesses). As if a vote for a local town councillor was ever likely to have that effect.
(*unless you live in places like Spital and Stonegravels where there are borough council by elections)
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>> Pete, feel free to vote Lib dem if you wih but the outcome of the May 2nd elections won't have any consequence with regard to the QPSC/Annexe issue.
We are voting for the Derbyshire County Council elections*, the authority responsible for (amongst other things) Education, Highways and Social Services.
Funnily enough I knew that.
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With respect, the last two posts are indicative of what is wrong with local politics.
Pete, feel free to vote Lib dem if you wih but the outcome of the May 2nd elections won't have any consequence with regard to the QPSC/Annexe issue.
We are voting for the Derbyshire County Council elections*, the authority responsible for (amongst other things) Education, Highways and Social Services.
Big Dave: Again the people who are best served to run the county, those who understand local issues and local people probably have no resemblence whatsoever to the people who go to Westminster and run the country. People getting the two mixed up are why we end up with poor councils elected because of national issues.
I remember many years ago staffing a polling station for a by election to Staveley Town Council probably the lowest rung of the government ladder. One woman came in and announced that she had voted Labour because 'she wanted to get rid of that b100dy woman (3 guesses). As if a vote for a local town councillor was ever likely to have that effect.
(*unless you live in places like Spital and Stonegravels where there are borough council by elections)
(* which I do).
I'm not getting the two mixed up. I'm a former Lib Dem party member and town and district councillor though not in this part of the country. I've met most of the Lib Dems who currently hold office in the coalition, a coalition which I strongly object to. One of my first actions after the last general election was to send a text to a newly elected Lib Dem MP imploring them to "not to let Nick (Clegg) cosy up too close to Cameron and co." I didn't expect them to take notice of me, a grass roots party member, but look what's happened, the Lib Dem's rating is at an all time low, bumping along at around 15%, less than 'other'.
I resigned my membership of the Lib Dems in protest at the coalition (along with many, many others). When I receive garbage like the leaflet UKIP has posted through my letter box the only way to object is to not vote for their local candidate, the only way to show dissatisfaction with the Lib Dems leadership is to not vote for their candidate, likeable local chap though he may be.
If I do vote, it'll be 'Independent' as none of the parties deserve to govern Derbyshire or Chesterfield (I'm strongly suspicious about who does actually govern the town, the council or local big business.)
Most of the the election leaflets I've read (and I read them all) pushed through letter boxes in the last week or two have as much content about national politics than local issues so don't tell me I'm confused, like it or not, the two are inextricably linked.
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Same as always. By going to a polling station and putting a cross on a piece of paper next to my preferred candidate. ;D
ps Was this topic REALLY that interesting that you had to post it twice?
I made the moderators aware that it was playing up this morning and wouldn't post then suddenly went twice
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I probably won't. When I've tried to contact my borough councillors, neither of them replied and my county councilor might just as well not exist. I haven't heard from any of them since the last elections and have never seen their names in the DT as having achieved anything; they're all a waste of space as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately the remaining candidates are from parties I either despise, don't trust or have policies I don't agree with. The independents have failed to convince me I should vote for them so it's probably a 'None of the above' - very disappointing as it'll be the first time since I've been able to vote that I won't.
In any case, I think local councillors should only be allowed to serve for a maximum of three terms and should be required to provide evidence of the positive things they've done for their communities when being re-selected, which shouldn't be automatic.
What ward are you in Dave?
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Got home from work, and there's 1 letter been posted through our door.
Hand written to 'Barry and Margaret Featherstone 27 SR'
It's from Joan Dixon, a Bolsover Labour Candidate for the Derbyshire County Council elections.
I'm impressed, someone's actually looked at the electoral register and took time to write our name on an envelope ;)
Not had anything from the other parties, this is Bolsover, were all Labour sheep apparently 8)
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What ward are you in Dave?
St Helens. I'm aware that one councillor's husband died and she has been absent but why weren't e-mails forwarded to the other ward member? If they were, he ignored them and ones addressed to him directly.
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St Helens. I'm aware that one councillor's husband died and she has been absent but why weren't e-mails forwarded to the other ward member? If they were, he ignored them and ones addressed to him directly.
Unfortunately you've been underserved by councillors with Trev's illness followed by Ange's period of grieving before deciding she couldn't carry on. If it's a recent matter and you want me to chase it up send me the details in a message.
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Unfortunately you've been underserved by councillors with Trev's illness followed by Ange's period of grieving before deciding she couldn't carry on. If it's a recent matter and you want me to chase it up send me the details in a message.
Thanks for the offer but it's history now.
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Got home from work, and there's 1 letter been posted through our door.
Hand written to 'Barry and Margaret Featherstone 27 SR'
It's from Joan Dixon, a Bolsover Labour Candidate for the Derbyshire County Council elections.
I'm impressed, someone's actually looked at the electoral register and took time to write our name on an envelope ;)
Not had anything from the other parties, this is Bolsover, were all Labour sheep apparently 8)
Even more impressed now. Just had Joan delivering leaflets on our street. She's committed I'll give her that.
Still had nothing from anybody else.
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Chances are Highways will be her responsibility if Labour take control
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At least she's having a walk around looking at some :))
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Labour 7, Lib 1, one very close
High UKIP vote
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UKIP seem to be doing ok - could this mean that maybe in the not so distant future in the gov. elections we will have UKIP as majority vote???
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>> UKIP seem to be doing ok - could this mean that maybe in the not so distant future in the gov. elections we will have UKIP as majority vote???
I doubt it. This is as much a protest vote against the current parties cluelessness as it is a valid political force. We'll see how they shape up when we, the public, want to know their intentions on the big issues that are currently plaguing the country.
Hopefully this will be a wake-up call for the existing parties.
IMHO of course.
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It's been said that Licolnshire has the highest number of immigrants so am presuming this maybe has something to do with the voting? Surprised at that though as i would have though Bradford or some other place would have had the highest immigration population
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Here you are keep an eye on Derbyshire elections
http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/council/elections/2013/results/default.asp?VD=results#9/53.1006/-1.7207 (http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/council/elections/2013/results/default.asp?VD=results#9/53.1006/-1.7207)
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>> It's been said that Licolnshire has the highest number of immigrants
Probably because of immigrant labour working in the fields.
I think locals there will love the opportunity to work in the field for five bob a week...
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Nice election link OK.
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if you can't be bothered to add up the numbers Labour have re-taken DCC.
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In my area, results are:
Sharon Buxton - UKIP - 414
Keith Falconer - Liberal Democrat Focus Team - 932
Marcus Stanton Linsey - Conservative - 183
Ron Mihaly - Labour - 1300
So UKIP got over twice the votes the Cons got.
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In mid term elections there is usually a protest vote against the sitting government.
This time of course it's unusual because two parties are in government.
The interesting thing is that in the past when the Lib Dems were a party of protest rather than a party of power people voted for them with no real idea what they stood for. Slowely they changed a lot of that protest vote into permanent votes that allowed them to win a lot of councils, councils where in theory they had no right to be in power (Sheffield Liverpool and yes even Chesterfield spring to mind)
The difference now is that UKIP are the vehicle for peoples protest votes but it will take far less time for them to get their message over of what they stand for, in fact I think most people who voted for them already know.
The big worry in the past has been that Independance for Scotland (and indeed Wales) would make a Labour government unelectable in England. Also a worry has been that boundary changes in England would achieve the same thing. If UKIP does establish itself as the 4th or maybe even 3rd party if English politics then the Tories will have things far less their own way.
I can see a situation where UKIP and some disaffected Tories would occupy the right, the rest of the Tories the Centre Right and Labour the centre Left with who knows maybe the majority of the Lib Dems returning to their SDP roots and returning to a centre left Labour party. Either way that still leaves the traditional working class with nowhere to go.
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>> It's been said that Licolnshire has the highest number of immigrants
Probably because of immigrant labour working in the fields.
I think locals there will love the opportunity to work in the field for five bob a week...
and probably live in over crowded flats
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The current situation now looks like this – Labour 43 seats, Conservatives 18 seats, Liberal Democrats 3 seats.
The whole picture (in reverse order as the results were announced) looks like this:
Spire – Sharon Lesley Blank – Labour
Brimington – Walter Burrows – Labour
Boythorpe and Brampton South – Ron Mihaly – Labour
Wingerworth and Shirland – Barry Lewis – Conservative
Derwent Valley – Michael Vernon Longden – Conservative
Loundsley Green and Newbold – Stuart Brittain – Labour
St Marys – Jean Mary Innes – Labour and Co-operative
Birdholme – Dave Allen – Labour
Staveley – John Graham Williams – Labour
Shirebrook and Pleasley – Marian Stockdale – Labour
Sandiacre – Wayne Major – Conservative
Breadsall and West Hallam – Carol Ann Hart – Conservative
Ilkeston South – John Arnold Frudd – Labour
Ilkeston West – Michelle Wendy Booth – Labour
Bakewell – Judith Anne Twigg – Conservative
Alfreton and Somercotes – Steve Marshall-Clarke – Labour
Alfreton and Somercotes – Paul James Smith – Labour
Alport and Derwent – Martin Tomlinson – Conservative
Belper – John Robert Owen – Labour
Duffield and Belper South – Stuart John Bradford – Conservative
Greater Heanor – Paul Jones – Labour
Heanor Central – Celia Mary Cox – Labour
Horsley – Kevin Buttery – Conservative
Ripley East and Codnor – Steve Freeborn – Labour
Ripley West and Heage – David Alan Williams – Labour
Matlock – Andy Botham – Labour
Sawley – Daniel Walton – Conservative
Breaston – Robert Alan Parkinson – Conservative
Ilkeston East – Glennice Birkin – Labour
Long Eaton – Roland Leon Hosker – Labour and Co-operative
Petersham – Clare Elaine Neill – Labour and Co-operative
Tibshelf – Clive Richard Moesby – Labour
South Normanton and Pinxton – Jim Coyle – Labour
Sutton – Julie Ann Hill – Labour
Swadlincote South – Trevor Southerd – Labour
Swadlincote North Sean – Andrew Bambrick – Labour
Swadlincote Central – Paul Dunn – Labour
Melbourne – Linda Mary Chilton – Conservative
Linton – Kath Lauro – Labour
Hilton – Julie Elizabeth Patten – Conservative
Etwall and Repton – Martyn Ford – Conservative
Aston – Robert Davison – Labour
Eckington and Killamarsh – Diane Charles – Labour
Eckington and Killamarsh – Brian Ridgway – Labour
Ashbourne – Andrew Iain Lewer – Conservative
Clay Cross South – Kevin Gillott – Labour
Bolsover North – Duncan McGregor – Labour
Barlborough and Clowne – Anne Western – Labour
Clay Cross North – Brian Wright – Labour
Dovedale – Simon Andrew Spencer – Conservative
Dronfield West and Walton – Stuart Ellis – Conservative
Bolsover South – Joan Elizabeth Dixon – Labour and Co-operative
Wirksworth – Irene Ratcliffe – Labour
Glossop and Charlesworth – Damien Thomas Greenhalgh – Labour
Glossop and Charlesworth – Ellie Wilcox – Labour
Walton and West – Keith Patrick Morgan – Liberal Democrat Focus Team
Staveley North and Whittington – Dean Collins – Labour
New Mills – Beth Atkins – Liberal Democrat
Whaley Bridge – David William Lomax – Liberal Democrat Focus Team
Buxton West – Tony Arthur Kemp – Conservative
Chapel and Hope Valley – Jocelyn Sarah Street – Conservative
Buxton North and East – Caitlin Janette Bisknell – Labour
Etherow – Dave Wilcox – Labour
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Labour walked it in the Bolsover district.
The winning candidate in each area won the vote by at least twice the votes of his/her nearest rival.
http://www.bolsover.gov.uk/derbyshire-county-council-elections-2013.html (http://www.bolsover.gov.uk/derbyshire-county-council-elections-2013.html)
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Pleased with result, disappointed with turnout.
If only 1 in 3 of those eligible to vote do so it's pretty poor.
The fact that people die in other countries in the fight for democracy is likely to be of little concern to the apathetic classes.
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Local results set to music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIcyBc4lOk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjIcyBc4lOk)