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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Old Cruser on July 25, 2013, 09:32:56 AM

Title: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 25, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
The Whitting Moor Roundabout is just one of the roads in Derbyshire to be recommended for funding from the government.
The request will be for Derrbyshire to recieve £3.24m towards the £4.68m cost of revamping and making the roundabout safer.

 Derbyshire will pay the short fall through other funds.

If this goes ahead I for one will welcome it!



http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/council/news_events/news-updates/2013/july/news_items/major_transport_schemes_for_derbyshire_take_a_step_forward.asp (http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/council/news_events/news-updates/2013/july/news_items/major_transport_schemes_for_derbyshire_take_a_step_forward.asp)
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
It's been needed for years now  - mind you it's a lot of money to spend.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 31, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
It's not really saying what they plan to do but am I reading it that work to other roads which ink to it may have work done to them to ease conjestion? Trying to get out of the Whittington hill road can be -'not for the faint hearted' at times.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Slacker on July 31, 2013, 07:54:41 PM
It could do with traffic lights as could the end of Langer Lane; there's some surplus to requirements at Hasland
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Fly on July 31, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
Just remove all the traffic lights.
Make sure people who drive, are really fit to drive.
And I don't mean retests at a certain age.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 31, 2013, 08:14:24 PM
It could do with traffic lights as could the end of Langer Lane; there's some surplus to requirements at Hasland

Langer Lane? Didn't think there was much of a problem there Slacker?
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 31, 2013, 08:17:27 PM
Just remove all the traffic lights.
Make sure people who drive, are really fit to drive.
And I don't mean retests at a certain age.

Spoken like a true taxi driver  ;D======== runs off to set up a campaign for traffiic lights to be kept =========
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Fly on July 31, 2013, 08:26:36 PM
Spoken like a driver

I'm all for letting traffic 'flow'. Not queue it up and then let it go.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 31, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
Let it flow is the word Fly.
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The Whit roundabout is like a huge circular racing track at times with the 'guess where I am going' brigade in full flight.

You are never going to get just 'people who are really fit'  on the roads, it makes sense for the councils to make them safer even if it does mean joining a queue

Better than congestion where people will take risks out of pure fustration
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Fly on July 31, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
Part know what your saying OC.

You want the speed limit on Whit roundabout dropped.
Did or do you know its a 60mph roundabout. National speed limit.
Might actually be 70mph. It's on a dual carriageway.


Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on July 31, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Yes the speed limit should be dropped - what idiot would want to do 60 round it - yes I know there are plenty.
Dropping it wouldn't make any difference though woud it, as those who wanted to race everyone ese would still do it.

Needs some stingers putting in - if you drive over 30 round it - you are slowed down automatically  ::)
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Pete on July 31, 2013, 11:09:01 PM
Funny you should say that OC - we once discussed this before and I suggested speed bumps to slow folks down.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 01, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
You are obviously kinder than I am Pete - cool photo by the way - what happened to the Ricky Tomlinson photo
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Big Dave on August 01, 2013, 10:37:49 AM
The answer is a flyover for the A61 through traffic. That would separate it from local traffic which could use the roundabout underneath with traffic lights, if necessary - but we'll probably get traffic lights which many drivers will jump on red anyway. Personally I don't find that roundabout a problem but I've probably spent far too much time in fast cars  >:
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Pete on August 01, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
>> what happened to the Ricky Tomlinson photo

I, err, lost it, can't find it anywhere...  :-[
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 01, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
Thats a good idea Dave not sure I have ever seen any fly overs around Derbyshire apart from over the bypass from Heath/temple Normanton, (sorry I use that road a lot to get to Calow Hospital and still don't know what it's called) although I am sure there must be some.

You are right in that it does need a fast car at times to pull out from there so anyone with a small car/engine will struggle at times.
I will be waiting with interest to see what they do -
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 01, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
>> what happened to the Ricky Tomlinson photo

I, err, lost it, can't find it anywhere...  :-[


My ar##  ;D
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Fly on August 01, 2013, 05:15:16 PM
The answer is a flyover for the A61 through traffic.

Wasn't that the original idea ?
It got shelved because the bottom of Hady Hill section over ran the budget big time.
Or is that just old wives tales.

But I do think your suggestion is a good one.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 01, 2013, 05:45:17 PM
Do you suppose the proposed budget may cover it this time round Fly?
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Fly on August 01, 2013, 06:32:15 PM
I doubt it. I'm more bothered about the congestion the work is going to cause. Especially on a roundabout I believe doesn't need lights. Neither does the Tesco or Horns Bridge ones.
Just for the record, Our_Lass agrees with me.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: therealjr on August 02, 2013, 08:00:03 AM
Langer Lane? Didn't think there was much of a problem there Slacker?

Only for people who live on Grangewood  :))

There isn't really a problem except during the rush hour if you are turning towards Chesterfield but turning towards Clay Cross can be a bit more problematic. The main benefit would probably be to the people of Wingerworth who would no longer get through traffic going down to the Tupton roundabout it if was easier to turn right at Langer Lane.

As for the original design of the bypass. It's easy.
Roundabouts are about 90% cheaper and quicker to build than flyovers.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: pureparty on August 13, 2013, 09:26:59 PM
The main problem with Whittington Moor roundabout are the drivers who dont seem to understand what the lanes or indeed the white lined sections near the centre are for!
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Scimitar on August 13, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
It's not really saying what they plan to do but am I reading it that work to other roads which ink to it may have work done to them to ease conjestion? Trying to get out of the Whittington hill road can be -'not for the faint hearted' at times.
Try it in a bus - even a good one thats got plenty of oomph is going to upset someone coming off the bypass at a ridiculous speed.
Has been known to loosen the sphincter muscles a tad :-[
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 14, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
Try it in a bus - even a good one thats got plenty of oomph is going to upset someone coming off the bypass at a ridiculous speed.

You  have a point about drivers coming off the bypass at a speed, I'm not sure if others have found this as I used to (don't do much motorway driving now) but I had a problem keeping back to the 30 speed limit when I initially came off the motorway.


Has been known to loosen the sphincter muscles a tad

 Best take a spanner then Scimitar  ;D


I agree with pureparty though drivers do fly round at a speed round it and then suddenly veer off when they realise they are in the wrong lane.
Title: Re: Whitting Moor Roundabout Project
Post by: Old Cruser on August 17, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
Off topic but I was driving towards Chesterfield today from Clay Cross area along Derby Road.
Doing 50 MPH when a wasp otherwise known as a motorbike over took me just before the Mill Lane/Nottingham drive turn offs.
Bollards in the middle of the road there for right turning traffic - he 'just' made it - idiot.
Think Bike???
Do the bikers actually 'think'