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Title: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 05, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Liked this article. Loved the last line.
Guess Spain don't like the UK.
http://www.channel4.com/news/why-are-we-still-arguing-about-gibraltar (http://www.channel4.com/news/why-are-we-still-arguing-about-gibraltar)

Wonder where to go on hols next year. Maybe not Spain  ::)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
I don't know why we go to lots of countries, not just Spain. Turkey, for instance, has a terrible record for hard-line government trampling on human rights, but even they backed off when it hit the tourist trade.
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 05, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
I better shut my gob  :-?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2013, 10:38:56 PM
You need to practice your English - it's gob not gop.

Bloody Spanish, come over here, marry our women... :)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 05, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
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I better shut my gob  :-?

I've had one too many.
Pete, put your glasses on  ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: therealjr on August 05, 2013, 10:47:47 PM
Does strike me as a bit odd. I can see the point in the argies moaning about the Falklands because of the oil that may lie within its territorial waters but if Gibraltar goes back to Spain then it ceases to have any value. Just smacks of Spain getting upset because we beat them in several wars and they now want back what they had to give up for losing!!!
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 05, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
I like your New hairstyle but I m sorry you still look like a twat  :))
My English is ok , I had my phone in Spanish ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 05, 2013, 10:53:18 PM
No comment !!
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 05, 2013, 11:09:49 PM
Does strike me as a bit odd. I can see the point in the argies moaning about the Falklands because of the oil that may lie within its territorial waters but if Gibraltar goes back to Spain then it ceases to have any value. Just smacks of Spain getting upset because we beat them in several wars and they now want back what they had to give up for losing!!!

You beat fuck all , It is difficult to say who won the war, for although England beat the Armada, and later managed to land soldiers in Spain itself, it never managed to win any major victories over the Spanish, and Spain remained the strongest country in Europe, and was always a threat to England, and the Protestant religion.
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Scimitar on August 06, 2013, 12:03:02 AM
Gibraltar has been British since 1704. Thats 4 minutes past 5pm.
Joking apart, I don't see its relevance in this day and age. Ok its a naval blockade to the Mediterranean.And they have Monkeys that steal your food.
I'd say give it back to Spain - are we that desperate to keep it :?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 06, 2013, 12:08:12 AM
Gibraltar has been British since 1704. Thats 4 minutes past 5pm.
Joking apart, I don't see its relevance in this day and age. Ok its a naval blockade to the Mediterranean.And they have Monkeys that steal your food.
I'd say give it back to Spain - are we that desperate to keep it :?

No Scimitar , we don't want it .  Gibraltar should be British
Forever and ever .
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: therealjr on August 06, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
You beat **** all

Firstly young man moderate your language, I accept English is not your native tongue but you should still know what passes for acceptable.
Secondly as far as I am aware winners don't tend to sign treaties giving things away?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 06, 2013, 06:56:10 PM
you talking rubbish,
The  treaty  hasn't got a legal leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Pete on August 06, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
Fight! Fight!  :P
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 06, 2013, 07:13:01 PM
 I was going to say , "you taking shi@" but this is not acceptable 
 Britain gave away Menorca in the treaty
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Scimitar on August 06, 2013, 07:18:41 PM
No Scimitar , we don't want it .  Gibraltar should be British
Forever and ever .
So why is Spain being so bolshy?
And,as JR says, please don't swear so much ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 06, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
Wonder where to go on hols next year. Maybe not Spain  ::)

On a lighter note, we've decided to go to Majorca next year, probably Palma area  8)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Scimitar on August 06, 2013, 08:03:40 PM
On a lighter note, we've decided to go to Majorca next year, probably Palma area  8)
Es Espana no
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 06, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
Espana, JR, Scimitar  ;)
Im sure JR was jesting about the language. That's the problem with forums. You don't know.
Never known JR have a problem with language. Saying that, yes, it's a little bit better natured on here nowadays.
Probably for the better. New members etc. Me personally, not pulling anyone down for swearing though.

I'm probably one of the worst  >;


Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 06, 2013, 08:31:40 PM
Who is the photo of Mr fly it doesn't look like you. Swearing
Timothy not me
I'm the  O:-)   on here  ::) oh and the bonkers granny                   
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 06, 2013, 08:37:57 PM
It's me OC. Taken and edited by myself, tonight. Just a bit of fun.
Me and Pete, the Blues Brothers LOL 8)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 06, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Yehhhh maaaaannn coooool I thought you were in competition with Mr Pete  ;D
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 06, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
So why is Spain being so bolshy?
And,as JR says, please don't swear so much ;)
I guess you don't like people cheating the system in the uk , I guess you don't like people claiming benefits in the uk and living in others country'.
Spain has his reasons too, They are doing something about it.
 

Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 06, 2013, 09:05:07 PM
You need to practice your English - it's gob not gop.

Bloody Spanish, come over here, marry our women... :)

How many women do you want to marry then Mr Pete you have Mrs Pete
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 06, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
I thought the moderators  MD are the ones that should tell off people in here , not other members.....

Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Pete on August 06, 2013, 11:14:44 PM
Well you got it wrong  :P
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Slacker on August 07, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
Isn't Majorca British Territory? Who owns the bars and fast food places?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 07, 2013, 09:20:01 AM
Isn't Majorca British Territory? Who owns the bars and fast food places?
Mallorca is German , they get their towels down first.
British  are The least wanted visitors around the world by a large margin
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
>> British  are The least wanted visitors around the world by a large margin

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 07, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Certainly not for their 'tipping' for service  ;)
I think the British have for many years been welcomed as a favourite in other countries I would say the majority are quiet and well mannered when out, the Scottish are not always so welcome - reason for this is they have a reputation for being too loud and drunk.  ^-^
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Big Dave on August 07, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
When is Spain handing back Ceuta and Melilla?
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 07, 2013, 10:28:42 AM
Certainly not for their 'tipping' for service  ;)
I think the British have for many years been welcomed as a favourite in other countries I would say the majority are quiet and well mannered when out, the Scottish are not always so welcome - reason for this is they have a reputation for being too loud and drunk.  ^-^

Sorry old cruser but British Are the worst behaved and the rudest. They made no effort to speak the local language and they are tight-fisted tippers.
 >;
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 07, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
Sorry old cruser but British Are the worst behaved and the rudest. They made no effort to speak the local language and they are tight-fisted tippers.
 >;

  :))  :))    Ok then what is your opinion on why British are the favourites Espana - there must be a reason
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Big Dave on August 07, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Sorry old cruser but British Are the worst behaved and the rudest. They made no effort to speak the local language and they are tight-fisted tippers.
 >;

You're not wrong. I have several English friends who have lived in France for ten years or more. Though France is grateful to us as a nation, the French really dislike the behaviour of the English; their lack of respect, bad manners, ill behaved children. A friend says the French have a phrase when dealing with an unruly child, it translates as "Are your parents English...?" i.e. bad behaviour is a result of English parenting. Having watched English families in French supermarkets (especially the booze aisles) I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 07, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
Come on Big dave i was winding up people in here, but this place is full of nice people .
In the mean time , this is not what I think or say .
It  was the telegraph ,,,,, everybody knows that the telegraph write rubish.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1401879/German-tourists-more-polite-than-rude-British.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1401879/German-tourists-more-polite-than-rude-British.html)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 07, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
Es Espana no

NSS  :P
Balearics Scimitar  ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 07, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
Mmmm, well now, had you been 'trapped' on the ship earlier this year which had an abundance of Europeans and Americans who all talk really loudly and just 'take over' you may see a different side.
Thay had no thought for anyone else and if one wanted a quiet read or conversation - tough!

As for the children, I wouldn't disagree with that but european children can be just as out of control as you say - it's the poor parenting.

Tipping - we have had that one and the British are not the best I'll grant you that.
Language - I would agree with that as well, we as a nation are rubbish at being bothered to speak the language of the country we are in and expect the people there - to be able to speak English - and many do which shows us up!

I think Espana loves us really - i just wish he/she would get rid of that bloody cow picture  ;D  ;)

ps
stop swearing Mr Fly by night  ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 07, 2013, 08:32:39 PM
I was merely pointing out the region where Majorca is  :-X
Yes I know it's still Spain. That was the irony  ;D

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I think Espana loves us really
I know he does  ;)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 07, 2013, 08:33:46 PM
Yes -  for Espana  :-*  :))
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 07, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
I was merely pointing out the region where Majorca is  :-X
Yes I know it's still Spain. That was the irony  ;D
I know he does  ;)


Very nice profile picture fly , You not the first english who i have seen with this fashion, we normally blame it on the Germans but it is an English thing too....but it is not going to be me the person who complains. I remember these women with the wrong white swim wear who go into the  pool and after you could see everything , and I mean everything .... (The english fashion can be funny too)
 I like the moderators in this forum , fly is a very helpful easy going person , and Pete is Also a nice person

Ofcourse i love you all , my wife is british , my son is british , (my dog is spanish sorry) , I may get rid of the cow one day .
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 07, 2013, 09:34:25 PM
What's Spanish for 'Woof'. As in dog bark  :))
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I like the moderators in this forum , fly is a very helpful easy going person , and Pete is Also a nice person

Thankyou Espana.  Gracias  ;)
You do realise some other people are going to presume we paid you to say that  8)
Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: España on August 07, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
What's Spanish for 'Woof'. As in dog bark  :))
Thankyou Espana.  Gracias  ;)
You do realise some other people are going to presume we paid you to say that  8)
Who are the " the others " ?

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201211/how-dogs-bark-in-different-languages (http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201211/how-dogs-bark-in-different-languages)
 Guau, guau, guau.


Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Fly on August 07, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
"The Others". They know who they are. We don't need to bother about them.  ;)
I'll check the link tomorrow. Bed time me thinks  ;D

Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Big Dave on August 08, 2013, 08:07:20 AM
Come on Big dave i was winding up people in here, but this place is full of nice people.

You may have been but in my experience it's true that we tend to leave our manners behind (if we had any) once we cross the English Channel.

Title: Re: Why are we still arguing about Gibraltar?
Post by: Old Cruser on August 08, 2013, 06:30:07 PM


Very nice profile picture fly , You not the first english who i have seen with this fashion, we normally blame it on the Germans but it is an English thing too....but it is not going to be me the person who complains. I remember these women with the wrong white swim wear who go into the  pool and after you could see everything , and I mean everything .... (The english fashion can be funny too)

There is a name for women who do that Espana - it ends in 'Teasers'
I like the moderators in this forum , fly is a very helpful easy going person , and Pete is Also a nice person

You actually LIKE  the forum Gob shite and the man with socks and sandals  :-?Yes I think you have been paid to say this  
Ofcourse i love you all , my wife is british , my son is british , (my dog is spanish sorry) , I may get rid of the cow one day .

Yippeee!!!  it startles me every time I look at it would. I  much prefer it on a plate  without the sun glasses ;)