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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Pete on October 14, 2013, 07:02:20 PM

Title: Gagging Law
Post by: Pete on October 14, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
I got this email this afternoon from 38 Degrees. I had signed a petition to stop the new gagging law that would basically stop people from publishing their views before an election. Please click the link and send a thank you to Toby Perkins for opposing this bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDtFoPWBoLc#t=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDtFoPWBoLc#t=18)

The email:

Dear Peter,

Last Wednesday, MPs had their final vote on the gagging law before it heads to the House of Lords. It was a close thing, with several government MPs rebelling against the party line. Unfortunately, the rebellion wasn’t quite big enough.

There were three important votes, two for amendments to curb the damage the bill would do, and one to kill it entirely. Your MP, Toby Perkins, took a stand voting against the government and standing up for freedom of speech. [1] If just a few more had done the same, this would be a victory email you’d be reading right now.

It’s said that ‘thank you’ is the least used word in politics. MPs are used to receiving emails from people who disagree with them, so let’s take the time say thank you when they do something right.

Please can you write to Toby Perkins and thank them for voting against the gagging law?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/gagging-thank-you-for-voting (https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/gagging-thank-you-for-voting)

Public rallies, MP meetings and thousands of emails, phone calls and tweets from 38 Degrees members, and lots of other organisations, ensured the bill has had a rough ride through parliament. [2] The controversy surrounding the bill will leave the Lords under no doubt that they’re being handed a “dogs breakfast” of a bill. [3]

If we keep up the pressure, the Lords will feel compelled to do the job MPs should have done in the first place, holding a proper consultation and rewriting the bill to protect freedom of speech. They’ll then send the bill back to Parliament, so Toby Perkins will vote on the bill again. Let’s make sure they remember the thanks they got this time for doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Fly on October 14, 2013, 07:07:32 PM
Ditto for Bolsover, Dennis Skinner  ;)

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Dear Barry,

Last Wednesday, MPs had their final vote on the gagging law before it heads to the House of Lords. It was a close thing, with several government MPs rebelling against the party line. Unfortunately, the rebellion wasn’t quite big enough.

There were three important votes, two for amendments to curb the damage the bill would do, and one to kill it entirely. Your MP, Dennis Skinner, took a stand voting against the government and standing up for freedom of speech. [1] If just a few more had done the same, this would be a victory email you’d be reading right now.

It’s said that ‘thank you’ is the least used word in politics. MPs are used to receiving emails from people who disagree with them, so let’s take the time say thank you when they do something right.

Please can you write to Dennis Skinner and thank them for voting against the gagging law?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/gagging-thank-you-for-voting

Public rallies, MP meetings and thousands of emails, phone calls and tweets from 38 Degrees members, and lots of other organisations, ensured the bill has had a rough ride through parliament. [2] The controversy surrounding the bill will leave the Lords under no doubt that they’re being handed a “dogs breakfast” of a bill. [3]

If we keep up the pressure, the Lords will feel compelled to do the job MPs should have done in the first place, holding a proper consultation and rewriting the bill to protect freedom of speech. They’ll then send the bill back to Parliament, so Dennis Skinner will vote on the bill again. Let’s make sure they remember the thanks they got this time for doing the right thing.

Can you write to your MP and thank them for rebelling against the gagging law?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/gagging-thank-you-for-voting

Thanks for everything you do

Robin, Maddy, James, Megan and the 38 Degrees team

Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Old Cruser on October 14, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
 :))  :))  :))
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Fly on October 14, 2013, 08:03:40 PM
Got your PM OC, yes, I found it amusing too  8)
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Old Cruser on October 15, 2013, 11:05:05 AM
Ok  :)) over.

First I think it's good that people like Barry, Pete and others sign petitions such as the one from 38 Degrees, if people didn't oppose what is going on nothing would get done and this government would be able to do whatever they like.

There have been many charities that have opposed the way things have been done and to do away with any freedom of speech is wrong - it's not what our country has been about.
The government has condemned what has happened in other countries, with freedom of speech then start a tester for doing the same here.
I know that they are extremely sly and crafty in the way they work - they like to sneak in ammendments.
Only the people who bother to keep track of what is happeneing will realise this.

We have seen what happens in other countries when they have people ruling like we have, if it goes on for another term we too could see riots!
I wonder how many who voted them in would leave there safe little nests and help get things under control on the streets

Well done to all out there who fight against the injustices this gov have imposed on people.
Rant over
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Fly on October 22, 2013, 05:33:15 PM
Had another email from 38degrees
The Gagging Law: Survey for the commission
They're asking people to fill in and submit a short online questionaire.

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/signup/gagging-law-survey-for-the-commission
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Done. :)
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Old Cruser on October 22, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
Done
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Fly on November 07, 2013, 06:51:47 PM
Had another email from 38degrees.
Here's a link to a slight victory. Tories put Lobbying Bill on hold over fears of embarrassing defeat in House of Lords
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-put-lobbying-bill-on-hold-over-fears-of-embarrassing-defeat-in-house-of-lords-8923325.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-put-lobbying-bill-on-hold-over-fears-of-embarrassing-defeat-in-house-of-lords-8923325.html)
Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Pete on November 07, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
I hope it dies the death it deserves - it is quite simply a major attack on free speech and civil liberties.

Title: Re: Gagging Law
Post by: Old Cruser on November 07, 2013, 08:37:30 PM
I hope this gets stopped, things are closing in and coming to a head with certain things this gov has done, I'm hoping the coming austerity challenge by Miliband will bring results on the bedroom tax - think it's on the 12th isn't it.
This gagging law wants stopping as well!