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General Category => Old Chesterfield => Topic started by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 01:30:23 PM

Title: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Rare photo, clipped from video. Sounds like Hollis and Brommel, but video voice over not too clear.

But where was it?

(http://www.petermaycock.co.uk/images/hollis-brommel.jpg)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Old Cruser on October 26, 2013, 01:44:50 PM
It looks a bit like the Blue Bell pub which Fly said is closing?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
Not in the town centre.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: poppy on October 26, 2013, 04:10:23 PM
It was either opposite the end of Park Road or possibly Boythorpe Road. I have seen an obscured image of it before but have never got it into perspective. Definitely near the park though! :)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
How about the bottom of Park Road? On the corner of what is now Park Road and Markham Road?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on October 26, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Def not Blue Bell, no cinema at the side.
Could be bottom of park road, but, if you look at top right of the picture, there is a corner
of a building, so that could rule out park road.
mmm... good one that.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Fly on October 26, 2013, 05:21:52 PM
I had a look on http://www.old-maps.co.uk (http://www.old-maps.co.uk), thanks guys  :)

Found this on the 1962-67 map of the Park Rd area. Deffo a big curved building on that corner.

(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/ParkRd_zpsf120d0aa.jpg) (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/Barry_Fly/media/ParkRd_zpsf120d0aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: poppy on October 26, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
I'm pretty sure that it is Park road/ Markham Road. It was on the route of the peace celebration walk from the town centre to the park in 1919. They came though town, down the side of the Portland hotel and into the park. So I reckon Fly's map is right. i'll try and enlarge it and take another look.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 06:34:20 PM
This is from a 1914 Ordnance Survey map - there seems to be someting in front of the round building that had been removed before the picture was taken.

(http://www.petermaycock.co.uk/images/chesterfield-map3.jpg)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: poppy on October 26, 2013, 07:04:35 PM
That looks abit too round and possibly to do with the railway, do you think? Perhaps it's on the way to the Boythorpe Road entrance to the park? About where there hideous car park is that belonged to the AGD. Do you think this could be it?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Pretty certain now it's Park Road - check out the video I posted earlier today. It's about 1:00:50 on the timeline. I never paid any attention to the image after the picture I grabbed, but the narrator mentions the Whites van.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Slacker on October 26, 2013, 07:26:24 PM
Is it from one of the videos Dave posted on Old Chesterfield Pics on Facebook?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: poppy on October 26, 2013, 08:01:05 PM
Brilliant. Got it now. Thanks Pete
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on October 26, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Its from one of the best videos I've seen about Chesterfield - if anyone local, old or interested in old Chesterfield hasn't watched it yet - do so, its excellent. :)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on November 20, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
The ' Round Thing ' is a railway turntable...take a look at the Tenth Photo..taken
in 1938

http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/asearch?search=Chesterfield (http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/asearch?search=Chesterfield)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2013, 06:53:25 PM
Can't see that Kenty - maybe I'm looking at the wrong image. What does it say in the Image details to the right of the photo?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on November 20, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
Can't see that Kenty - maybe I'm looking at the wrong image. What does it say in the Image details to the right of the photo?

The Market Hall and Market Place Chesterfield 1938
3 rows down and 2nd from left.
you can see,in the background, what is now Park Road with the Bridge running over it. (top left of Photo)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2013, 08:13:19 PM
Gotcha! Yes it is a rail turntable but I think it is just behind the Hollis and Brommel building.

Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Fly on November 20, 2013, 08:43:08 PM
Previewed my post and didn't 'Post' it. Bugger   :(
Didn't know there was a bridge at the bottom of Park Rd.
So what's the building the other side of the turntable ? Wouldn't that be Park Rd end of Boythorpe Avenue.
My eyes say the Hollis and Brommel building was is hidden or not there by the Ragged School.

(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t382/Barry_Fly/ParkRdRegistry_zpsac0194cb.jpg) (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/Barry_Fly/media/ParkRdRegistry_zpsac0194cb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on November 20, 2013, 08:51:44 PM
The Market Hall and Market Place Chesterfield 1938
3 rows down and 2nd from left.
you can see,in the background, what is now Park Road with the Bridge running over it. (top left of Photo)

Dam Photo keeps changing places !.
I know somebody who is trying to get further photos of that railway line, in particular
any pictures between the station and horns bridge.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on November 20, 2013, 09:03:33 PM
Here ya go:

(http://www.petermaycock.co.uk/images/rail-turntable.jpg)

You can clearly see the turntable with H & B building in front of it with the round front of the building on its junction with Markham Road.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on November 21, 2013, 05:43:53 PM
Here ya go:

(http://www.petermaycock.co.uk/images/rail-turntable.jpg)

You can clearly see the turntable with H & B building in front of it with the round front of the building on its junction with Markham Road.

Does that now answer your original question Pete ?
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Slacker on November 21, 2013, 06:49:16 PM
Everytime I read it I think of a little Plasticine man and dog  :)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on November 21, 2013, 06:51:26 PM
>> Does that now answer your original question Pete ?

Just remind me mate, what was the original question… ;)
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Kent on November 24, 2013, 10:21:07 AM
Here's another one Pete

Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: Pete on November 24, 2013, 10:48:42 AM
Nice one - you can see the railway gates by the entry to Queens Park too.
Title: Re: Hollis & Brommel(?)
Post by: kittyboo on January 27, 2014, 04:21:51 AM
Hollis and Brommel was a shoe warehouse/shop.
The little building to the left was a sweet shop.