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Title: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 07, 2014, 07:12:46 PM
Now I know it was supposed to be a documentary, but I presumed it was more of a one off comedy with actors.
Lot's of it was quite funny and lot's of it wouldn't really be said on television by real people. Would it ??

Oops.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10556970/Police-examine-Benefits-Street-documentary-after-alleged-criminal-acts-are-broadcast.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10556970/Police-examine-Benefits-Street-documentary-after-alleged-criminal-acts-are-broadcast.html)
 
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Slacker on January 07, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Government sponsored TV?
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/1555416_582971705115201_296577175_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Stuart on January 07, 2014, 08:58:02 PM
What a tremendous coincidence that it was aired on the same day that the loathsome Osborne announced further cuts to welfare.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 10, 2014, 07:20:14 PM
I missed it but the trailers didn't give a good impression of people on benefits.
My remark to hubby was that I hoped they would also cover others who didn't live like the trailers portrayed.

I have put next weeks on to record
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 10, 2014, 07:24:20 PM
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I have put next weeks on to record

Didn't realise it there 'was' another.
Run's off to look at the telly guide . . . . . . .
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 10, 2014, 07:31:48 PM
You forgot the ==========
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 10, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
It wasn't snowing, and I was hopping  ::)



What you on about Pam ??  :)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 10, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
You first Barry ;D
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 10, 2014, 07:57:42 PM
I put . . . . . . . . . .
You put = = = = = = =
You say tomato I say tomata  :))
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 10, 2014, 08:00:30 PM
Ha!!
You got it !  :))
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 10, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
Phew  ::)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2014, 11:11:48 PM
It's like being up late with children...
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 11, 2014, 10:07:21 AM
Shurrup forum gobshite and let us play  :P  :))

@ Fly grumpy old men eh  ;)

@ Pete  :-*
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 11, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
Apparently the residents want the programme taken off air as they (Ch 4) portrayed them in a negative light.

So how do you put a positive spin on shop-lifting and drug/alcohol abuse?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 11, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Isn't that a bit after the horse has bolted. I remember an ex member on here who demanded his posts be removed.
We complied with his request. Fear of court action by him. I can remember a lot of what he said and posted.
I know his son is called **********, after a certain ******** **** ********.  he supplied that info freely, then asked it to be removed. 
You can't remove things from personal memory

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Apparently the residents want the programme taken off air as they (Ch 4) portrayed them in a negative light.
Guess people ought to think what they say and where.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 11, 2014, 08:53:44 PM
Not watched it but do others who have think they may have been 'showing off or playing to the camera's'
You are right as well Flym people will still remember even if it's stopped
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Slacker on January 12, 2014, 09:11:32 AM
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Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Stuart on January 12, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
Not watched it but do others who have think they may have been 'showing off or playing to the camera's'

I'm absolutely certain that only the most controversial people are chosen by the production company. The producers are accountable to advertisers for the show's ratings - if they could show a struggling family that genuinely deserves help, or a bunch of feckless scroungers who are milking the system,  which do you think they'll focus on?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 13, 2014, 08:03:02 PM
9.00pm C4. On it LOL
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 13, 2014, 08:17:33 PM
I have been sent this

Channel 4 to drop its TV show Benefits Street. ?????


The programme started on Monday and follows the lives of people on James Turner Street in Winson Green, Birmingham.

Some residents who feature in the show claim the programme makers have portrayed them negatively.

But Channel 4 said the programme was "fair and balanced" and they had no plans to withdraw it.

'A fair reflection'
 
Former Birmingham resident Arshad Mahmood started the petition, calling for the five-part series to be stopped.

"I'm really surprised with the reaction to the petition. It's doing pretty well," he said.

He said he had started the petition because he felt uncomfortable after reading details on social media of threats of violence against some of the participants.

Mr Mahmood added he had been raised on benefits in the city.

"These are marginalised people with complicated situations being exploited for entertainment, and the thousands who have signed my petition agree with me," he said.

Channel 4 said the programme had attracted its highest viewing figures in more than a year - 4.3 million.

Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom said it had received hundreds of complaints about the programme, which is due to end in February.

"At the end of the day it's up to Channel 4 whether they axe this show," said Mr Mahmood. They should make a donation to local community groups so at least something good comes out of it."

However, one of the show's participants, Smoggy, said he had no regrets about having appeared on the show - and that he had been offered three jobs since appearing on it.

"Since being on the TV I have had a lot of nice people get in touch," he said.

A Channel 4 spokesman said the documentary was "a fair reflection of the reality of life on a street where the majority of households receive benefits".

He added: "It is a sympathetic, humane and objective portrayal of how people are coping with continuing austerity and cuts in benefits."




It doesn't say if 'smoggy' is actually now working
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 13, 2014, 08:30:52 PM
Me and Our_Lass went out for a pint xmas dinner with my brother(works), my brother in-law(works), and his 2 sons(both work).
Who ware the first people we saw as we walked into the pub. All the regulars(most not working).

Who's the idiot !!
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 17, 2014, 07:15:21 PM
Oops, Paul O'Grady causing controversy over the show  ;)
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/complaints-made-bbc-over-paul-ogrady-comments160114 (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/complaints-made-bbc-over-paul-ogrady-comments160114)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 17, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Unfortunately I agree with him, the people would have been blinded by the thoughts of being on TV. I am sure we all know people like some of the ones on Benefits street.

It is however an unfair representation of people on benefits as not all live, speak, swear or act like some of them ( yes I watched the second episode ).

If channel 4 are half decent they will make another programme this time using a different type of person who are on benefits.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 17, 2014, 09:42:58 PM
Really can't see that happening OC.
C4 don't care about people. Just profit. Consider how many firms want their adverts shown before or after Benefit St.
TV is profit related, business.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 21, 2014, 11:46:22 AM
Wow lots of bad language from the street natives last night.

Only stabbing a guess on this but I suspect many have low IQ's and maybe the way they live is a cultural thing?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 21, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
Wow lots of bad language from the street natives last night.

Only stabbing a guess on this but I suspect many have low IQ's and maybe the way they live is a cultural thing?

And through no other reason than how he's been brought up, how will Gerard (white Dees' offspring) grow up?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 21, 2014, 02:04:24 PM
I was thinking that Alsatian, allowed to ride around the streets on his bike listening to conversations of two men who to be honest I wouldn't want to listen to let alone a child.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 21, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
If you look at the aerial shots of the street it's quite long, however the residents that 'star' in the program would only occupy a small number of those houses - is this then an unfair representation of the whole street, simply to get ratings.

Or am I being cynical?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
No - its not you being cynical - its an unfair representation of the whole street, simply to get ratings.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 21, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
I still wouldn't like to be on that street -  sorry!
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
Who would?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 21, 2014, 08:31:46 PM
Slightly ( well ok way off ) topic but after the B/S followed 'My Baggy Body'  :-? flipping eck that lady had things hanging down to her knees llike mens testicles  :-?
I still haven't figured out what that was. :-?
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 21, 2014, 08:40:29 PM
You wouldn't like a man with testicles that big  ::)
Neither would he  :-X
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 21, 2014, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: Fly link=topic=4152.msg27798#msg2779 :8 date=1390336829
You wouldn't like a man with testicles that big  ::)
Neither would he  :-X

 I might  ::) :))Taxing would be a bit difficut though Fly =============  :))
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 22, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
‘White Dee’, (Deidre Kelly), asks Nick Clegg to visit Benefits Street

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Ms Kelly claimed the programme was “very cleverly edited”, telling Mr Clegg: “The programme has been a shock and no way did we ever think it would be this big.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/white-dee-asks-nick-clegg-to-visit-benefits-street-9078041.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/white-dee-asks-nick-clegg-to-visit-benefits-street-9078041.html)

Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Fly on January 25, 2014, 05:11:04 PM
The people on that street have really been set up big time.

Benefits Street residents charged with drug offences
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/benefits-street-residents-charged-with-drug-offences-9085220.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/benefits-street-residents-charged-with-drug-offences-9085220.html)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 25, 2014, 06:54:19 PM
Doubtful Nick Clegg will do a walk around there IMO.

As for the drug offences they could be from any street in the UK.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 27, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
White Dee

Triple Dee more like  ;)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 28, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
White Dee

Triple Dee more like  ;)

But at least she won't hurt her face if she falls flat on the floor!!  >;
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 28, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
 :))  :))  :))
Wish she wouldn't wear those boob tubes - yuk
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 28, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
:))  :))  :))
Wish she wouldn't wear those boob tubes - yuk

They're obviously made out of incredibly strong material!!!  :o
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: emmz on January 28, 2014, 01:17:41 PM
Yea agree with you, The boob tubes do not do her any justice what so ever...
Just think if anyone decided to throw a punch she could just hit them with them couldn't she...I know i nearly can lol
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Pete on January 28, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
Pardon me if I don't get involved in this one...  ::)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 29, 2014, 08:28:08 AM
Yea agree with you, The boob tubes do not do her any justice what so ever...
Just think if anyone decided to throw a punch she could just hit them with them couldn't she...I know i nearly can lol

Wooo Emmz always good to have different weapons if your hands are tied  ;D

Emmz - what about you and I starting two new threads

1 Would the ladies prefer a boob tube or go topless?

2 How many of the men would or does wear a thong?

Runs of and hides before Pete the Forum Gobshite reads this =============================  :P
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: emmz on January 29, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
lol it might cause a little stir in here dunno whether the guys could handle it that well  >;
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 29, 2014, 01:44:21 PM
lol it might cause a little stir in here dunno whether the guys could handle it that well  >;

Well I reckon Corgi would - nope sorry Alsatian  ;D

Should we -----------  :))
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 29, 2014, 03:17:12 PM
Well I reckon Corgi would - nope sorry Alsatian  ;D

Should we -----------  :))

Go girls!!!  C:-)
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on January 30, 2014, 10:49:27 AM
Go girls!!!  C:-)

Down Boy!!!  :))

Back on Topic

I actually felt sorry for the young man who was made to go out and find work - don't get me wrong I'm sure there is some work out their for him, but does anyone else get the impression he may have mild learning difficulties?
What he needs (IMO) is a designated person who can support and link him up with a type of work he can do. This of course all costs money.
I just think it's unfair.
After he had eventually been given their food bank parcels he was like a child on Christmas morning.
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Alsatian on January 30, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
................anyone else get the impression he may have mild learning difficulties?
What he needs (IMO) is a designated person who can support and link him up with a type of work he can do. This of course all costs money.
I just think it's unfair.
After he had eventually been given their food bank parcels he was like a child on Christmas morning.

Do you know OC I thought exactly the same thing!
Title: Re: Channel 4, Benefit St.
Post by: Old Cruser on February 08, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Great minds then Alsatian  ;)

I thought it had finished last week when they put out the live discussion on Benefits - White Dee was on stage and a couple more resident ladies on the front seats of the audience.
Got a bit lively at times
I was wrong as it's back this Monday!