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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Pete on May 09, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
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I know you don't want to give publicity to UKIP but I'm seeing Farage all over the media appealing to loads of folks based on UKIP's immigration policies - but what should ordinary folks be aware of that is also UKIP policy, like the NHS and others, that would surprise the average person? And what are the LibDems alternatives to these policies?
Sorry this is not directly about the LibDems, but with floating voters and the possibility of another coalition, I think there is some mileage in it for you and your party.
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Disappointing response... :(
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'Sorry this is not directly about the LibDems, but with floating voters and the possibility of another coalition, I think there is some mileage in it for you and your party.'
I Doubt it Pete, Her Leader Sold The LIBDEMS Soul, when they sided with the Cons, so, I Guess, He can get a Hard On.
He Has taken them back 400 to 500 yrs, and if anybody says they were not around then, that's exactly the point
I am making, that's what it means For me.
Incidentally Pete, I am one of those Floating Voters, but will not vote Libdems, purely for what they have
allowed the Cons to put a Massive Threat on the NHS. Purely for their own gain.
See 38 Degrees for any answers anybody are seeking.
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May I just say, Julia's had well enough time to respond to us, but sadly, hasn't.
I have all correspondence on record.
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Was in Clay X Tesco today and UKIP had a stall set up to canvas inside the shop.
Thought this was a bit unusual for a supermarket, bit different from having a charity stall.
One of their crowd was a former Chesterfield LibDem councillor
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Keith is still with them is he? Given the work he did on St Helens ward with the minority communities I'm surprised he threw his lot in with Ukip
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Keith Falconer?
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Sorry guys n galls, laptop's died tonight. I'm using the Nexus for this post.
Thankfully, all correspondence I have had with Julia is 'online', not on 'Outlook' on my lappy :-)
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Keith Falconer?
Lomas
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He said Stuart Brittain & Tom Murphy owe him a drink for splitting the LibDem vote. Also said he had disagreements with LibDems years ago (though he didn't leave them til he lost is seat).
What are your thought about political activity inside a supermarket (whatever party)? Wonder if they conned their way in as a charity.
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I for one wouldn't want to be bothered by any party whilst I was shopping!
It will be interesting to see if other parties use the supermarket for their canvassing.
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In 8 years the nearest I've seen is councillors rattling the collecting tin for the Mayor's charity. Other than charities or community things the only other thing I can remember in our foyer has been either one of the car breakdown services or occasionally a photo studio
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What are your thought about political activity inside a supermarket (whatever party)? Wonder if they conned their way in as a charity.
I'd be wanting to see the manager to ask if he had head office approval. If he said he did, I'd take a photo of the canvassers and send it to Tesco for confirmation. I've no time for politicians of any hue at the moment; from top to bottom British politics is riddled with dishonest, self-serving, duplicitous incompetents.
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I'd be wanting to see the manager to ask if he had head office approval. If he said he did, I'd take a photo of the canvassers and send it to Tesco for confirmation. I've no time for politicians of any hue at the moment; from top to bottom British politics is riddled with dishonest, self-serving, duplicitous incompetents.
Well said Dave!!!
Also does this mean that Tesco support UKIP????
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>> Also does this mean that Tesco support UKIP????
Another reason to boycott Tesco...
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So. UKip scored a major victory in the local elections - even in traditional Labour seats.
Anyone support them?
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Nationally Labour made a lot of gains. UKIP probably helped by low turnout. people will be more aware of them next year, see what policies they come up with
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Pity Julia Cambridge didn't take the time to answer my question... Might have known a bit more about UKip.
She'll never get my vote - breaking promises even before she becomes a politician proper.
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Reading their website makes them sound pretty much like someone I would vote for.
http://www.ukip.org/issues (http://www.ukip.org/issues)
Just how much of the racist, and other slurs, thrown at them are actually true, or juts spin from other parties ?
eg: No maternity pay as I read somewhere.
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I think that's my point Fly - nobody really knows what their other policies are. I have heard that they think employers should be able to fire people without giving a reason or any notice. I've heard they want to break up and sell off the NHS. ect etc
But what is the truth? Have I just heard someone else's propaganda?
I do know this though - Farage was once a Tory, his father was a stockbroker, he went to public school, he went to work as a trader in the City for an American commodity brokerage firm and other large companies in the City. And I know that the people who nearly bankrupted the world have similar pedigrees. And I know their answer to this situation is to punish the poor, invalid and mentally ill...
As a Euro politician, he's made massive amounts of money but never votes and sometimes doesn't even show up.
If any working class person thinks because he likes a pint and a fag, that he's a friend of the workers... dream on.
And no - I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
Added: Ask Dennis Skinner about him. Or read https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dennis-Skinner/60783991559 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dennis-Skinner/60783991559)
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I've been told before by a tory party supporter that I am better off now than a few years because I'm paying less tax.
True. What he didn't mention was, that the rent on our house had gone up by a proportionate level. Labour Council.
So we (me and our_lass) are no better off, just managing to keep out of the sh**.
Does any body really know what's best for us as a country. I don't think there's an answer to that.
The only people who do are making a lot more cash than me and still fu***** it up ;)
Considering the info in your post Pete, Farage has just earnt a sh** load for himself. Nuff said :-X
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Here we go - selected highlights of policy re Farage on the BBC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8617187.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8617187.stm)
Hat tip to Dawn.
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Can someone explain why the Conservatives are also known as Tories?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory)
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I've been told before by a tory party supporter that I am better off now than a few years because I'm paying less tax.
True. What he didn't mention was, that the rent on our house had gone up by a proportionate level. Labour Council.
So we (me and our_lass) are no better off, just managing to keep out of the sh**.
Does any body really know what's best for us as a country. I don't think there's an answer to that.
The only people who do are making a lot more cash than me and still fu***** it up
I've been on this soapbox before but once again this is why I will never understand economics.
1 the economy is stronger. (No politics please) this is a good thing.
2. People have (allegedly) more money to spend. This is a good thing.
3. People are spending that money. This is a good thing because it creates/secures jobs
So what do the economists want to do? Put interest rates up so that those of us with mortgages and loans will have to pay more and will thus have less money to spend. Which surely will then reverse the growth in the economy????
Is it me?