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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Old Cruser on July 09, 2014, 08:34:51 PM
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The go slow on the motorway has been scrapped - it won't happen!!
I know this will please some of you.
I just think the 70 MPH should be enforced more than it seems to be.
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/local/m1-go-slow-plans-scrapped-1-6719370 (http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/local/m1-go-slow-plans-scrapped-1-6719370)
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Why 70? It's an arbitrary figure dreamt up decades ago when most cars were incapable of going much faster.
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How many drivers can get themselves out of a problem at 40 let alone 70.
Just because vehicles are made to go faster that doesn't automatically mean drivers able to handle them at that speed.
Not the motorway but I followed a driver in a flipping Noddy Car down Derby Road today - OMG must have been doing at least 35mph. I wanted to give the car a shove.
Now that's the other end of bad driving
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90 is about right.
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Good. The limit should be 80mph or 90mph.
If you're not capable of travelling on a Motorway at that speed, you shouldn't be on it.
Ask Our_Lass, she agrees with me.
I wouldn't make the last statement if it wasn't true :)
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>> If you're not capable of travelling on a Motorway at that speed, you shouldn't be on it.
If you're not up to it, take some driving lessons or stay in the slow lane.
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I don't think being capable of driving at that speed comes into it IMO.
We could all bat down at 80/90 mph but how many of us are trained to ( or could ) react quickly or safely enough should a problem arise?
Does the Advanced Motoring lessons cover it?
If another vehicle cut you up whilst doing that kind of speed - what would you do?
Emergency stop??
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If you're not up to it, take some driving lessons or stay in the slow lane.
Slow lane? Whats that? I can only assume you mean the left hand lane which is the one you are supposed to drive in and use the other 2 for overtaking (and the right hand is not a 'fast lane' either) >;
Not that a lot of people take notice of that...
Personally i think it should be 80mph, im quite comfortable at that speed and confident i could get myself out of a dangerous situation.
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>> Not that a lot of people take notice of that...
Fast lane 100mph - there in a jiffy ;)
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I don't think being capable of driving at that speed comes into it IMO.
We could all bat down at 80/90 mph but how many of us are trained to ( or could ) react quickly or safely enough should a problem arise?
Does the Advanced Motoring lessons cover it?
If another vehicle cut you up whilst doing that kind of speed - what would you do?
Emergency stop??
Stopping distance at 90mph is about 500ft. Or about 34 lengths of my car.
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>> Not that a lot of people take notice of that...
Fast lane 100mph - there in a jiffy ;)
and at that speed, having a crash, you might fit in a jiffy bag! :D
If you feel safe at that speed, im fine with that, its the other drivers that panic and dont use mirrors etc. How many times do you see Emergency Services trying to get through and are ignored as some drivers think mirrors are for seeing what their hair looks like
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We just need stricter driving tests - too many amateurs on the road IMHO.
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So what chance would you have of avoiding a collision if someone cut you up?
Veer away and collide with the barrier or another vehicle
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I've done millions of miles since 1967 and never had a crash.
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We just need stricter driving tests - too many amateurs on the road IMHO.
A different way of teaching people to drive would be good IMO.
As someone said the 70mph has been going for a long time but drivers haven't been trained for the kind of high speed which is being suggested
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So what chance would you have of avoiding a collision if someone cut you up?
Veer away and collide with the barrier or another vehicle
I suppose a lot depends which lane it happens in.
If it was the left which I think is 2nd most dangerous, you have bridge supports, embankments
Middle most dangerous as you potentially have cars either side
Right, least dangerous as theres the barrier (concrete in a lot of it now) which you could potentially turn into and run down the side of.
Motorways are dangerous anyway and personally I think they are more dangerous as a lot of people dont know how to use them properly.
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The driving test is exactly the same as most other exams/ tests these days.
You aren't taught anything about the subject you are taught how to pass the test.
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After nearly 20 years of driving as part of my job, I feel I'm qualified to handle situations like vehicles appearing from nowhere whilst I'm doing that speed.
Mirrors and indicators when used are wonderful things LOL
I'm more bothered about about poeple who don't 'see' !
Not an eyesight issue, they just don't see what's happening around them.
Do they live in a little 'I've got a car, I'm going for a drive. Why's that person pipping at me ?'
Who signed the paper to say these people have passed the test ?
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Exactly!
The British motorist would never get through the French driving test.
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After nearly 20 years of driving as part of my job, I feel I'm qualified to handle situations like vehicles appearing from nowhere whilst I'm doing that speed.
Mirrors and indicators when used are wonderful things LOL
I'm more bothered about about poeple who don't 'see' !
Not an eyesight issue, they just don't see what's happening around them.
Do they live in a little 'I've got a car, I'm going for a drive. Why's that person pipping at me ?'
Who signed the paper to say these people have passed the test ?
reminds me of the old Jasper Carrott joke about is Mother in Law.
Been driving 40 years
Never had an accident
SEEN thousands!!!
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A speed limit isn't a target speed, you don't have to drive at 70 (or 30, 40, 50 or 60 where they are the limits) if you don't want though unless there's a good reason not to, why wouldn't you?
I've passed three advanced driving tests, driven on race circuits across Europe, have a car that's electronically restricted to 155mph. Even so I find there are times on a UK motorway when 70mph is too fast yet people drive at that speed because that's the maximum allowed - so they do it. Abolish the motorway speed limit and make people take responsibility for themselves (like they do in Germany).
Motorways aren't dangerous, they're the safest of all roads. Neither is speed dangerous, it's a contributory factor in a small percentage of road accidents. A lot of nonsense has been spouted about road safety in recent decades. The trouble is, if people hear it often enough they start to believe it.
'Night all....
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I always say to the mrs, it isn't me I'm worried about and I certainly wouldn't like to be doing 100 when somebody else makes a silly mistake, doesn't matter how experienced we all make mistakes.
I always think about those families when I'm on the motorway and tend to at the most get to 80 but generally just stick with the flow at about 60-70, no-one can predict a blow out even after checking the tyres that day.
Seen alsorts on the motorways as both a bus driver and a lorry driver but I still think they are the safest roads.
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A speed limit isn't a target speed, you don't have to drive at 70 (or 30, 40, 50 or 60 where they are the limits) if you don't want though unless there's a good reason not to, why wouldn't you?
I've passed three advanced driving tests, driven on race circuits across Europe, have a car that's electronically restricted to 155mph. Even so I find there are times on a UK motorway when 70mph is too fast yet people drive at that speed because that's the maximum allowed - so they do it. Abolish the motorway speed limit and make people take responsibility for themselves (like they do in Germany).
Motorways aren't dangerous, they're the safest of all roads. Neither is speed dangerous, it's a contributory factor in a small percentage of road accidents. A lot of nonsense has been spouted about road safety in recent decades. The trouble is, if people hear it often enough they start to believe it.
'Night all....
Now that's an interesting take on it Dave.
As an advanced motorist on race circuits what is your opinion of the bog standard driving test motorist batting down a busy motorway
at say 80/90 MPH.
Would we have the capabilities of reacting in a split second to avoid an accident?
How is the training 'different' from the bog standard driving test?
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Now that's an interesting take on it Dave.
As an advanced motorist on race circuits what is your opinion of the bog standard driving test motorist batting down a busy motorway
at say 80/90 MPH.
Would we have the capabilities of reacting in a split second to avoid an accident?
How is the training 'different' from the bog standard driving test?
The courses I did involved police and army instructors whose task was very different to that of a driving school instructor; one of the courses was called 'Protect and Survive' and involved evading ambushes - but that was all some time ago.
It's long while since I had a driving lesson so I'm out of touch with how good, or bad, current driving tuition is at doing more than just getting pupils through the test. From what I observe, it's pretty bad.
You ask about reacting to something happening at 80-90mph. Accidents on motorways are quite rare, I've only witnessed one since I started driving in the 1970s. Motorways aren't the high-risk roads, accidents are far more likely in the street outside your house or while you're driving to Tesco or to the doctor.
I'm just about to go off for a few days in my other car - no airbags, no seatbelts...
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The courses I did involved police and army instructors whose task was very different to that of a driving school instructor; one of the courses was called 'Protect and Survive' and involved evading ambushes - but that was all some time ago.
It's long while since I had a driving lesson so I'm out of touch with how good, or bad, current driving tuition is at doing more than just getting pupils through the test. From what I observe, it's pretty bad.
You ask about reacting to something happening at 80-90mph. Accidents on motorways are quite rare, I've only witnessed one since I started driving in the 1970s. Motorways aren't the high-risk roads, accidents are far more likely in the street outside your house or while you're driving to Tesco or to the doctor.
Don't know about that Dave, Derby Road is regularly extra busy with diversions from the motorway because of collisions.
I'm just about to go off for a few days in my other car - no airbags, no seatbelts...
Safe journey and enjoy your weekend :)