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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Pete on December 01, 2014, 03:20:39 PM

Title: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Pete on December 01, 2014, 03:20:39 PM
Just read this on the Telegraph site:

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"Away from the blokey rabble-rousing of Ukip, there is another quieter political revolution in going on. It’s younger, more female and left-wing – and almost the exact opposite of Nigel Farage’s party.

The Green Party is on the march (well, perhaps a leisurely stroll).   

While Ukip supporters are older, more male and more working class and the Greens’ disproportionately middle-class graduates, what unites them is their distrust and anger with Westminster.

The Green Party’s standing in the polls has trebled since the beginning of the year – from two to six per cent according to YouGov – and they have occasionally leap-frogged the Lib Dems."

Seems I'm supporting a party that is on the up. :)


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Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Old Cruser on December 01, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
Well now, if women are leading it - it has to be worth looking into.
The shower we have in now need turfing out that's for sure!
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Scimitar on December 01, 2014, 03:35:02 PM
Saw her on Question Time t'other week, & she gave a good response to all that was discussed too.
Its a shame UKIP's getting the plaudits, I know who I'd sooner trust.
Mind you, Nick Griffins support of UKIP will do them the world of good (not) :))
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: therealjr on December 01, 2014, 07:40:42 PM
6% of the popular vote will get them nothing under our current electoral system.
It would get them 30-40 seats under a genuine PR system.
Such a system would also make people think twice about protest votes.
It would encourage people to come out and vote in so called safe seats.
And yes Slacker will tell you it will lead to more coalition governments which the big parties see as a diminishing of their powers which is why they are so vastly against it.
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Pete on December 01, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
... and why I am in favour of it. :)

Sorry Andy, but there it is - some of us want a left wing government and your lot can't do that.
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Slacker on December 02, 2014, 06:01:21 PM
The MEPs have lost local identity since EU changed to the PR system. I felt sorry for those outside the top 2 or 3 on each party's list who didn't have a cat in hell's chance pf being elected.
However my main objection to PR is that unlikely that any party will get 50% of MPs so the 3rd (or below) parties hold the balance of power having to sacrifice their own manifesto to go into an unholy alliance with one of the others
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: therealjr on December 02, 2014, 07:10:13 PM
Slacker you know darn well that if Clegg (plus others in this scenario) had kept Gordon Brown in power for 5 years you'd think coalition governments were perfectly acceptable. Mep's have no identity because frankly no one gives a stuff who they are.
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Slacker on December 03, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
I knew who Ken Coates was when he was the local MEP
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: therealjr on December 03, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
A Labour party activist knew who his Labour MEP was
And in other shocking news this afternoon the sun set!!!
Title: Re: Forget Ukip: why the Green Party could decide the election
Post by: Slacker on December 04, 2014, 06:26:40 AM
Quote from: therealjr on December 03, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
A Labour party activist knew who his Labour MEP was
And in other shocking news this afternoon the sun set!!!

I couldn't name all 5 that represent East Midlands though