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Title: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
Increasingly the powers that be including businesses and certain members of the public are using unmanned aircraft. I just read this in the HP:

"The first near miss between a passenger jet and a drone near Heathrow Airport is being investigated by Air safety chiefs, amid fears that unmanned aircraft are posing an increasing danger to commercial flights. The UK Airprox Board (UKAB), which will publish its findings on Friday, is expected to record an incident risk rating of A - the highest of five categories - defined as a "serious risk of collision".

I'm not a very good flyer and this deffo wont help...  :(

What do you think?

http://huff.to/1s27aoJ (http://huff.to/1s27aoJ)
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Fly on December 07, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
I think there's a big 'space' in the word Drone.
I'm all for little 4 rotor quad  thing with a camera on doing an aerial view of the Spire.
I want one :-)
I'll get one ;-)
If we are talking about military drones doing recon missions then that's another thing.
Don't have something to hide that camera's might see.

Blair. WMD. Epic fail TBH. IMHO
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Engine Driver on December 07, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
It's the future of things I'm afraid, driverless trains (Docklands Light Rly) Driverless cars in the news the other week, so why not pilot less aircraft?
Anyway these Drones are not  strictly speaking pilotless as they are controlled by someone in the control centre or what ever they call it, similar to a radio controlled model aircraft.
Also if one gets shot down, no pilot dies or gets captured/tortured, win, win all round. ;D
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Slacker on December 08, 2014, 06:33:03 AM
To use them professionally you have to go for training with the Civil Aviation Authority. Steve who runs Rise Above It did the 12 minute Chesterfield Marathon Road (some by car, some on foot and some with his drone.)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rise-Above-It-Aerial-Photography-Videography/280955085409973?sk=info&tab=page_info (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rise-Above-It-Aerial-Photography-Videography/280955085409973?sk=info&tab=page_info)
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Engine Driver on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
Sorry, thought you meant the big military ones :-[         With  regards to these little flying camera platforms, cos thats what they really are, they would be ok IF they are used responsibly. But they won't be will they? The idiots will get hold of them and allsorts of issues will arise :(
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Pete on December 08, 2014, 05:15:47 PM
Agree with Engine Driver - idiots and inexperienced folks will cause enough problems and the government will have to step in with safety regulations etc.

Hopefully it won't take a major accident to get some control/guidelines in place.
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: therealjr on December 08, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
What's the difference between these drones and the model planes people have flown for years?
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Fly on December 08, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
Onboard CCTV, and more control of what they are filming !!
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Slacker on December 09, 2014, 06:42:29 AM
Discussed on Vine yesterday. Was quite amused by one comment by a bloke whose mate paid 5 grand for one. When he first tried it it didn't respond to the controls and flew off never to be seen again!!
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: therealjr on December 09, 2014, 01:25:12 PM
Sorry my point was why are they more of a danger to commercial airlines?
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Slacker on December 12, 2014, 07:16:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzIWxzUACKo#t=15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzIWxzUACKo#t=15)
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Pete on December 12, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
Brilliant video - it was on YouTube before but it got pulled. I hope the owner leaves it up this time.
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Fly on December 12, 2014, 07:42:53 PM
Sorry my point was why are they more of a danger to commercial airlines?

Thought I'd answered that one JR. Or were you specifically using the word 'commercial' ?
I think the same problem could occur with any other airborn craft. Difference is, any drone, doesn't have people on them.
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: therealjr on December 13, 2014, 04:22:16 PM
People for years have flown model aircraft never heard of any issues with them being a danger to commercial aircraft. Now people can buy and fly drones and there are concerns and indeed reports of near misses. So what's the difference between a drone and a model aircraft?
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: simondjuk on December 13, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
I believe that they have a height restriction of 400ft
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Alsatian on December 22, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
Regarding the latest incident at Gatport Airwick, where there have been two arrests made - I've thought of a great way to save time and money processing them through the judicial system.............

Amass all the people who have suffered delays caused by these people in the departure hall, and place these two in the middle of the crowd.  >;

Isn't this called restorative justice or something?!

Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Old Cruser on December 23, 2018, 02:50:43 AM
According to the news these two individuals can't even be claimed to be 'young and foolish' as they are of a mature age.
Total idiots.
Like guns I now think it is time to make owners licence them and have a unique number clearly on the side, easier said than done I suppose but something has to be done so this can never happen again!
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Sorastro on December 26, 2018, 10:20:40 AM
What's the difference between these drones and the model planes people have flown for years?


As someone who doesn't do either I can only assume people who fly model planes actually take pride in what they are doing. Most have possibly spent many many hours building the model from scratch and painting it and basically looking after it, and would be very loathed to hand over the controls to a "novice". Also correct me if I'm wrong but model planes aren't flown all that high, plus the vast majority of those operators KNOW to keep away from designated air space.
Sending Amazon about £50 and receiving a drone by return of post that anyone from 6 to 60 will "have a go at" is just asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Sorastro on December 28, 2018, 01:28:35 PM
A lesson for us all.... Don't believe everything you read.

This couple were targeted by the police after a "tip off" from neighbours. If it turns out they are totally innocent of this crime then the attention should turn to the neighbours and if they haven't a plausible excuse as to why they shopped them then proceedings should ensue. Just sounds like someone had it in for them and saw a chance to drop them in it.     
Title: Re: Should we ban Drones?
Post by: Old Cruser on December 28, 2018, 04:14:18 PM
Two Words - Cliff Richards!