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Title: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 26, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
Suppressed HS2 report reveals serious cost concerns

High-speed rail project may be swept up in railway crisis as 2012 review released under FOI shows officials believed it was unaffordable.

The crisis in Britain’s railways is threatening to engulf HS2, with the government being forced to release a damning report showing the Department for Transport believed the high-speed project was unaffordable given its other spending commitments.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/26/damning-hs2-report-reveals-serious-cost-concerns (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/26/damning-hs2-report-reveals-serious-cost-concerns)

And to think these monkeys were voted in by sentinent human beings...

I fear for the human race at times like this.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 05:56:13 PM
What exactly is your point?
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
That the people in charge are thick and do not know how to prioritise the needs of the people to whom it is responsible.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fly on June 27, 2015, 06:56:55 PM
Plus for the last lord knows how many years the tory Gov have been throwing millions of pounds around, probably to their preferred businesses, now they are thinking of ending it. Pockets must be full, though I thought they had already loaded up with the farced sale of the PO !!
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 06:59:13 PM
I totally agree, but that isn't unique to tories, it is every political party.  All candidates are in it for themselves!!!
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fly on June 27, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
The tories just seem to do it with such a nonchalant flair and on such a huge scale  ::)
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 07:22:40 PM
The tories just seem to do it with such a nonchalant flair and on such a huge scale  ::)
Take Toby Perkins as an example, he exudes such a flair and makes his living from politics.  Is this what you expect from the working class?
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
Have you ever met Toby Perkins? Give us an example.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
No and no.

Can you prove that the people that are in charge are thick?
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2015, 07:44:59 PM
No, but its more polite to say that they are thick than to say they are a bunch of opportunistic money grabbers.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 07:50:41 PM
No, but its more polite to say that they are thick than to say they are a bunch of opportunistic money grabbers.
I'd rather call a spade a spade, but if you want to bend the truth, go for it.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Just trying to be polite. :)

Anyway, the last word via me comes from Private Eye...

Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quoting Private Eye means nothing to me.  I'd much rather hear you personal plight regarding your Father in law, although i still find it hard to believe he had no help?
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on June 27, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
Just read the words - then think.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Old Cruser on June 27, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
fuppet it was a battle for my two brothers and I to get even the minimal amount of help with my mum. We didn't want funding for full care, just a little help to help us three support her whilst we were working. Other than that it meant one of us giving up work and I had already dropped to part time because of the situation.
Being out of work isn't our families culture.
More recently the hospital DR was going to send my terminally ill relative home for her husband  ( in his 80's ) to care for her.
Again it was a battle!
It shouldn't be like this.
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Fuppet on June 27, 2015, 08:15:15 PM
My mother in law had support until her death 2 years ago at 90 years of age.  My brother in law had support until his death last october.  in my opinion, both had far and above what they needed in way of support.
Sorry to hear of your problems OC
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Old Cruser on June 27, 2015, 08:27:57 PM
Did you have a battle with social care to get the funding and support fuppet - that has been a thorn in our sides TBH.

You will by now know that my daughter was disabled through illness and she doesn't get enough funding. If it wasn't for me she would have a right struggle.

Today for instance, she called me and said her support worker had looked in her mouth and said it looked as if she had an abscess.
I had to take her to the emergency dentist at Saltergate and then collect the antibiotics given.

Daughter lives independently - only doesn't get enough for extra's like this.
It's a good job I'm now retired ( or I 'think' I am  ;) )
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Here's a bit of light reading for those who think I'm a little bit harsh in my views...

http://bit.ly/1vkhHq0 (http://bit.ly/1vkhHq0)
Title: Re: Another Tory pipe-dream bites the dust
Post by: rocky wolfbanger on July 05, 2015, 06:59:52 PM
Nothing ever changes in this country does it? If you are 18 got a bit of money for a ticket to Australia or New Zealand my suggestion is go. This country has had its day its getting stupid and really oppressive now one rule for one and another for the poor . I don't know if its just me , but I really do feel that the country going down a road which that will see us living in some sort of controlled dictatorship were everything you do is watched and judged- unless your rich of course.