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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: who can tell on December 10, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
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I often pop in the Oak for a pint or two the pub has changed hands a lot recently is the pub a community asset already ?
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Isn't this the pub which was said to be closing - but it was just a change of owners
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Yes the Royal Oak has a new landlady called Helen she also has the Bulls Head at Old Whittington . Helen was offered the Crooked Spire pub but refused it , all of three pubs are Enterprise Inns pub group. The last landlady did a bunk taking the parts of the upstairs kitchen with them so at present theirs no food available . The Oak has had many landlords come and go due to rent and other costs in running the pub. It's one of Chesterfield's better pubs but its like everything else its down to money.
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I don't really go in pubs these days and have only been in the Royal Oak once years ago had some great fish and chips though.
It's probably people such as me who are partly to blame for the closing down of so many pubs.
It does need to be kept open, being in the Shambles it's part of our history - be a shame to see it shut down. what's it like inside these days?
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I don't really go in pubs these days and have only been in the Royal Oak once years ago had some great fish and chips though.
It's probably people such as me who are partly to blame for the closing down of so many pubs.
It does need to be kept open, being in the Shambles it's part of our history - be a shame to see it shut down. what's it like inside these days?
The inside protected Iv been told so I doubt much changed inside wise. I don't go in many others and that one next to butchers looks less than inviting. Where I live at Arbourthorne most have closed or a bit too tough for my liking.
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The inside protected Iv been told so I doubt much changed inside wise. I don't go in many others and that one next to butchers looks less than inviting. Where I live at Arbourthorne most have closed or a bit too tough for my liking.
Butchers? which pub do you mean WCT?
Arbourthorne - have never heard of it is it this side of Sheffield?
Sounds as if you would have been better staying in Newbold ;)
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Looks the Royal Oak has closed again . Arbourthorne is OK it's not on the Chesterfield side though more towards East end. The pub near the butchers is called Crown and Cushion I think I will pass on that one!
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Back open ;D
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I often pop in the Oak for a pint or two the pub has changed hands a lot recently is the pub a community asset already ?
Going back to your original question - How to make this pub an asset Keep the inside as original as possible to when it was built? Give a choice of foods which were eaten back then - and not forgetting the Ale - what type was it and what were the drinking vessels like back then?
What do you think?
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Going back to your original question - How to make this pub an asset Keep the inside as original as possible to when it was built? Give a choice of foods which were eaten back then - and not forgetting the Ale - what type was it and what were the drinking vessels like back then?
What do you think?
I'm not up on the pubs past but Iv been told the building itself is listed and that Enterprises Inns own it. Their is a guy who been going in since 1959 told me a man hung himself in their . Asset part relates to the pub business and preventing it becoming another business. It's possible that Enterprise can sell the building and a change of use can happen unless it's a community asset.
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I'm not up on the pubs past but Iv been told the building itself is listed and that Enterprises Inns own it. Their is a guy who been going in since 1959 told me a man hung himself in their . Asset part relates to the pub business and preventing it becoming another business. It's possible that Enterprise can sell the building and a change of use can happen unless it's a community asset.
That is why maybe bringing some originality and some our history would maybe keep punters going in it would hopefully make it an asset - bring people from other towns - remember the large Banqueting Hall which was so popular - we had to eat with our fingers and were served by staff dressed fitting to the time.
You will have to help me out here though as I can't remember the name of the place?
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That is why maybe bringing some originality and some our history would maybe keep punters going in it would hopefully make it an asset - bring people from other towns - remember the large Banqueting Hall which was so popular - we had to eat with our fingers and were served by staff dressed fitting to the time.
You will have to help me out here though as I can't remember the name of the place?
I think the real problem is prices, in Sheffield pubs were every were in fact one was not far from me but most have gone now the area were I live now is mostly a council estate so money is very tight. I can't see pubs in Chesterfield fairing better to be honest. I left Chesterfield in 2002 to live at Sheffield I dont recall a Banqueting hall type place in town . When I do go to Chesterfield its to meet with friends at the Oak.
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I think the real problem is prices, in Sheffield pubs were every were in fact one was not far from me but most have gone now the area were I live now is mostly a council estate so money is very tight. I can't see pubs in Chesterfield fairing better to be honest. I left Chesterfield in 2002 to live at Sheffield I recall a Banqueting dont hall type place in town . When I do go to Chesterfield its to meet with friends at the Oak.
I'm talking 60's 70's WCT - and maybe on the Chesterfield/ Sheffield border. Sure someone will know on here
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I'm talking 60's 70's WCT - and maybe on the Chesterfield/ Sheffield border. Sure someone will know on here
Rings no bells at all. Problem is so much comes and goes.
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I remember such a place, but not it's name. It was some kind of banqueting hall - it'll come to me.
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Curtesy of Chesterfield online facebook members -
It was Eckington Hall !!
Now apparently demolished and a housing estate :(
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Yes Eckington Hall was on the left just before you got into Mosbourgh housing estate now , had a few laughs in there .
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I'm not up on the pubs past but Iv been told the building itself is listed and that Enterprises Inns own it. Their is a guy who been going in since 1959 told me a man hung himself in their . Asset part relates to the pub business and preventing it becoming another business
. It's possible that Enterprise can sell the building and a change of use can happen unless it's a community asset.
Is this a DCC ruling - re An Asset ?
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Is this a DCC ruling - re An Asset ?
No idea I think the council have something to with it. Went past that pub that sort of below ground -Pacfic ? the place looks ransacked and not trading across from Argos shop.
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Yes we also noticed the pub was empty yet again - too many pubs and not enough people who use them.
It's cheaper to buy booze from a supermarket and sup it at home with a take away!
It's what many do today isn't it - socialising is 'out' -
-- except for tonight when we have a forum meet --- ;)
Yes the 'Asset' is to do with the council !
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The Oak now only opens after 6pm not a good sign.
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The Oak now only opens after 6pm not a good sign.
Looks like you may be staying in Sheffield then for your pub visits
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Looks like you may be staying in Sheffield then for your pub visits
Looks like it . Their was a pub - Arbourthorne Hotel rough but OK across from me now boarded up and going to be torn down for more flats. Problem is my mate doesn't like Sheffield pubs.
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Looks like it . Their was a pub - Arbourthorne Hotel rough but OK across from me now boarded up and going to be torn down for more flats. Problem is my mate doesn't like Sheffield pubs.
Two choices then.
Meet up half way - or
Find another pub in Chesterfield
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Just Googled the Arbourthorne Hotel. Now I realise where it is. That's the Manor Estate isn't it ?
I've heard very mixed stories about that area over the years.
Back to local pubs, wasn't it the Welbeck that only used to open day times, not nights?
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Just Googled the Arbourthorne Hotel. Now I realise where it is. That's the Manor Estate isn't it ?
I've heard very mixed stories about that area over the years.
Back to local pubs, wasn't it the Welbeck that only used to open day times, not nights?
Near enough. Manor estate is next up from Arbourthorne below it is Norfolk Park estate. All areas have their problems but its much better than when it was when I first arrived. The Arbourthorne Hotel had a murder five year back plus before that got burnt down in a arson attack after these events the Police really cramped down hard since the pub closed its got quieter now and is a decent area. Welbeck where's that one?
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Junction of Soresby St and Rose Hill
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.2363227,-1.4301458,19z?hl=en
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Blimey yes the Welbeck we used to go there it was very popular. Always smells good when we walk past these days as they do lunches, it's got maybe 2 steps to get into it though so not one we can use with daughter.
Of course there are others as well around Chesterfield - depends what type of pub you are wanting to use though I suppose.
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The Spread Eagle was always a good drinkers' pub, down by the police station. Quite an historic building too.
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The Spread Eagle was always a good drinkers' pub
Anybody got a fork ? >;
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I have a very old photo of the pub.
I'll post it over the weekend
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Good memory Fly, nothing gets pasta you.
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Here you are - although you may already have these.
The Royal Oak - Shambles in 1898 during restoration.
Second one The Angel Hotel - no longer standing
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s362/chesterfieldonline/Scan0019%20-%20Copy_zpsv3f7yw90.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/chesterfieldonline/media/Scan0019%20-%20Copy_zpsv3f7yw90.jpg.html)
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s362/chesterfieldonline/Scan0019%20-%20Copy%20-%20Copy_zps6v15ygor.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/chesterfieldonline/media/Scan0019%20-%20Copy%20-%20Copy_zps6v15ygor.jpg.html)
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I was trying to think where the Angel was. Looking through the arch, looks like a row of houses. Then I found this post by Les Elson on FB 'old Chesterfield pics'.
Opposite the Market Hall on the bottom of High Street the Post Office has stood for over a hundred years next to the Angel Hotel with the original (National) Westminster Bank next up. At this time the building and yards of the Angel extended as far as Saltergate.
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I was trying to think where the Angel was. Looking through the arch, looks like a row of houses. Then I found this post by Les Elson on FB 'old Chesterfield pics'.
Have they a photo of the Angel then fly?
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Here you go.
(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s362/chesterfieldonline/angel%20hotel_zpsc7pzo51v.jpg) (http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/chesterfieldonline/media/angel%20hotel_zpsc7pzo51v.jpg.html)
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Nice one - different shot
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Nice photos never heard of Angel Hotel . The Royal Oak photo I think theirs one on the wall similar to that one in one of the rooms but to be honest I don't take much notice to busy enjoying my pint!
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Angel Yard used to stretch from the Market Place to Saltergate. The Saltergate end is still there - the Barley Mow is at the top of Angel Yard. FWIW
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Royal Oak update : The pub has closed until the 16th February when Steve and Tina who run the Blue Bell will reopen the pub. The selection of beer will be Farmers Blonde, Bass, Moonshine. No mention of food .