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General Category => Politics => Topic started by: Old Cruser on March 12, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
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He's not good news for America at all IMO.
The problems have started even 'before' he gets in ( if he does that is ) and it's looking like it's in his favour.
That man is bringing out the worst in Americans and showing the World just how Racist the population is.
Have they really moved on from the 'Slave days' or has it just been suppressed by leaders over the years?
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I for one wouldn't mind getting my hands on the new book that's come out about Trump in the White house.
"The room where it happened" written by the former National Security adviser {and Mr. Pastry lookalike} John Bolton, it's got to be the best read for a long time
It apparently contains everything you guessed about Trump, and more besides, like he thought Finland was in Russia, a school kid wouldn't have made that mistake. He also claims that he wouldn't mind doing more than 2 terms in office!.... well good luck with that. If that man gets back in later on this year then I'm putting in for the P.M.'s job.
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TBH I'm surprised someone hasn't taken a shot at him before now - and No I wouldn't agree with that but america has a History of it.
He truly is an awful person and I struggle to see why or how he actually got voted in - some of the things he has said and done are unbelievable - and we moan about our lot dare i say it - we should be grateful we don't have Trump!
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I for one wouldn't mind getting my hands on the new book that's come out about Trump in the White house.
"The room where it happened" written by the former National Security adviser {and Mr. Pastry lookalike} John Bolton, it's got to be the best read for a long time
It apparently contains everything you guessed about Trump, and more besides, like he thought Finland was in Russia, a school kid wouldn't have made that mistake. He also claims that he wouldn't mind doing more than 2 terms in office!.... well good luck with that. If that man gets back in later on this year then I'm putting in for the P.M.'s job.
Broke one of my golden rules the other day and actually ordered something on line..i.e. this book, arrived about an hour ago so will settle down with it tonight.
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I've just come across a rival for Trump at the upcoming election......
Congresswoman Katie Porter, a breath of fresh air in politics. We should definitely give her a job over here.
Look her up on you tube.
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I for one wouldn't mind getting my hands on the new book that's come out about Trump in the White house.
"The room where it happened" written by the former National Security adviser {and Mr. Pastry lookalike} John Bolton, it's got to be the best read for a long time
It apparently contains everything you guessed about Trump, and more besides, like he thought Finland was in Russia, a school kid wouldn't have made that mistake. He also claims that he wouldn't mind doing more than 2 terms in office!.... well good luck with that. If that man gets back in later on this year then I'm putting in for the P.M.'s job.
you say you may put in for the PMs job as though that is unlikely, we have Boris who is trump watered down and with that in mind surely you have to be in with a chance
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So Trumps come through it unscathed....not only that but he says he's now immune! REALLY!!
I don't know where these people are getting these ideas:-
A/ Once you've had it you won't get it again, tell that to the bloke in America that's just caught it for the second time.
B/ Having been tested only once you are in the clear never needing to be re tested.
All you need is this madman who wants to come amongst the crowds and kiss them. I say "crowds" it was the best bit of selected camera angles I've seen, I bet there weren't more than 300 people there, but the way the cameras panned it appeared to be more.
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was it not the most bigly and beutifull crowd trump has ever seen, i was watching a program on tv a coupleof nights ago commenting on trumps iauguration crowd which he claimed was the biggest ever which was totally untrue and when shown to one of his aides as being evdently untrue she claimed that he was not being dishonest and was just presenting alternative facts (read lying).
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No time for Boris never have and to be honest I'm not completely convinced he ever had Covid
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Hands up all those that truly understand the American voting system..........anyone??
From what I make of it people can vote on voting day, but the postal votes can be sent in anytime from a month before the day or up to a week after. So, if true {I'm sorry to say} this is where I have to agree, to a certain extent, with Trump. The system does open the door for postal ballots to be manipulated. The Americans sending in postal votes have had a month to send them in prior to election day and it appears they still accept them after polling day, this shouldn't happen, so ergo, the last day to receive a postal vote is voting day, anything after should be binned unopened.
Unfortunately Trump being Trump is acting like a despot, as soon as he appeared to be in the lead he shouts "STOP COUNTING!!" and from what I've seen of Trump supporters they are not going to accept a Biden result especially as Trump is calling foul.
We have a lot better system than America mainly because our votes don't take so much counting, unfortunately the big drawback with our system is {and always has been} very soon after the result is announced we soon discover we voted the wrong people in.
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Hands up all those that truly understand the American voting system..........anyone??
From what I make of it people can vote on voting day, but the postal votes can be sent in anytime from a month before the day or up to a week after. So, if true {I'm sorry to say} this is where I have to agree, to a certain extent, with Trump. The system does open the door for postal ballots to be manipulated. The Americans sending in postal votes have had a month to send them in prior to election day and it appears they still accept them after polling day, this shouldn't happen, so ergo, the last day to receive a postal vote is voting day, anything after should be binned unopened.
Unfortunately Trump being Trump is acting like a despot, as soon as he appeared to be in the lead he shouts "STOP COUNTING!!" and from what I've seen of Trump supporters they are not going to accept a Biden result especially as Trump is calling foul.
We have a lot better system than America mainly because our votes don't take so much counting, unfortunately the big drawback with our system is {and always has been} very soon after the result is announced we soon discover we voted the wrong people in.
and lets not forget dead people vote in America as well ( apparently ::))
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i think the real problem with our election process is that it does not truly represent the will of the people, we have a system where a political party can get 15% of the votes which in a fair system would translate to 97 parliamentary seats yet under our system these votes actually translate to zero seats in Parliament, after the second world war the alies imposed a proportional voting system on Germany that would give the German version of Parliament a true reflection of the votes to seat ratio, the British estableshment in particular stated this would not only prevent fringe parties like the Nazi party being able to get absolute power in future elections and as such is a far superior and fairer system.
the real question about our system of voting when one considers the aforementioned, why is it we are still stuck with what the british establishment itself considered to be antiquated and unrepresentitive voting system over 75 years ago.
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Watched the news last night about the Biden win. First thing I said to the wife was "Now Trumps no longer the President [January] after losing the election, that means he will not only lose White House he will lose his missus, she will be off like a shot".
Low and behold in today's Mirror.......
Apparently the first lady has been waiting for him to lose the Presidency so she can divorce him and it could cost him a £2billion divorce settlement.
I'm surprised it's lasted that long.
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It's called greed.
Not all of us possess it on a grand scale (y)
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Watched the news last night about the Biden win. First thing I said to the wife was "Now Trumps no longer the President [January] after losing the election, that means he will not only lose White House he will lose his missus, she will be off like a shot".
Low and behold in today's Mirror.......
Apparently the first lady has been waiting for him to lose the Presidency so she can divorce him and it could cost him a £2billion divorce settlement.
I'm surprised it's lasted that long.
i dont think he is to bothered about that, it will leave him free to date his daughter.
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Trump needs to be removed from office immediately......
The mans a megalomaniac, in short he's a maniac. He's lost the election but won't admit it, he drove through the middle of a pro Trump demonstration the other day grinning from ear to ear as if to say "Carry on your doing a great job" to the point where the inevitable happened and violence erupted, now we hear he's itching to press the "football" button and blow a couple of countries up just because he's having a spat.
He's obviously not used to being told something he doesn't like and I, and many others, guessed it would be a damn sight harder to get him out than it was to get him in, he's doing his utmost to trash the presidency before he's forced to relinquish it.
It's a case of "Well if I can't be President.....THEN NO ONE CAN!!"
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He needs to hold onto the Presidency because as the President he is is imune from prosecution for crimes he is being investigated for.
Prosecutors are queing up to have a pop at him when his imunity has gone, so as soon as he goes the fun will really start, i can't wait.
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On the news this morning.... Trumps house has been raided by the F.B.I. and he's non too pleased.
So it's ok for hundreds of his supporters to storm Capitol hill uninvited urged on by Trump himself and wreck the place, but federal agents with full authority to be in his home {and presumably not causing any unnecessary damage} is somehow all wrong.
If they are looking for an excuse to stop him joining the next race for president {which they obviously are} all they have to do is remove his American citizenship, if your not an American you can't become president... end of........
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It sounds really complicated listening to the news. I'm wondering if they will actually 'do' anything Or just let it go!
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It looks like trump is rallying again, I bet there's never been such division in America since the civil war.
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Well I for one would have put my shirt on Trump losing, just shows doesn't it.
If they will elect a {allegedly} convicted felon to the post of President it doesn't say much for the other team, lets hope he does a better job this time.
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It appears most of those who have spent the last couple of years slagging him off now find themselves having to work with him and he doesn't look the forgiving type.
Looks as if there's going to be a bit of grovelling and the thoughts of grovelling to Trump will only make him even more big headed, he's going to lap it up.
Trump won a decisive victory as did Boris in 2019 both were bombshells.
I just don't know how he's going to square the circle over Ukraine when he boasted that he would "Stop the war in one day" well you can if your thought is to let the aggressor win by making Ukraine capitulate. It's all right for the Americans they are out there on their own and have the manpower and resources to defend themselves whereas countries like Ukraine surrounded by other countries have no way of stopping incursions. Plus the fact Trump thinks Putin is the bees knees.
The only good thing to come out of this election is in another four years Trumps tenure as potus will finally come to an end.
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So his first few days in office will consist of:-
Making Canada the 51st state
Taking over the Panama canal
"Invading" Greenland
Stopping the war in Ukraine
What's he going to do AFTER breakfast, I don't know about you but I'm going to dig myself the deepest air raid shelter I can, I've a feeling I'm going to need it.
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His mouth runs away with him!
The Panama Canal - We've cruised through that. Wonderful experience. He'll ruin it!
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Didn't catch the inauguration speech but what I did hear of it on the news is he's going to put men on Mars!!
I actually think that's where he's from.
Bezos Musk and Zuckerburg were there, just think between them they could BUY Britain, why not? we've had worse running it.
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Trump latest:-
Signing executive orders to release secret documents into the assassinations of J.F.K...R.K. and M.L.K.
But will these actually shine a light on those who perpetrated these crimes and why, sadly I've a feeling not.
As I have mentioned before I have my own theory on who was behind the J.F.K. tragedy, unfortunately that's how it will have to stay.
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Trump latest:-
Signing executive orders to release secret documents into the assassinations of J.F.K...R.K. and M.L.K.
But will these actually shine a light on those who perpetrated these crimes and why, sadly I've a feeling not.
As I have mentioned before I have my own theory on who was behind the J.F.K. tragedy, unfortunately that's how it will have to stay.
Can't wait to see the executive orders to release documents about 9/11
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If I'm correct and the U.S. follow the same lines with secrets as we do {stay locked for 50 years} it will be a very long time before anyone will see the 9/11 documents.
I wonder if we will get a peek at the files on area 51??
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WOW. So Donald has opened his mouth big time regarding the helicopter / Aircraft collision.
He is well out of order blaming the Diversity rule used by the previous people in charge.
How does he make that assumption - the pilot may have turned suddenly very ill.
He should keep his mouth zipped until the correct investigations are completed - then he can spout off.
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Trump is a classic example of "Put brain in gear before operating mouth"
He just spouts mainly garbage because firstly he loves the sound of his own voice and secondly his yes men don't have the bottle to correct him.
When he stands there pouting on t.v. he reminds me very much of another know all, from history, that said what he wanted and those around him dare not contradict Mussolini
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High tarriffs what's that going to do,it's going to end up tit for tat and the only people losing out are the customers.
Canada alone sends billions of dollars worth of automobile parts to the U.S. for car production each year.
Strangely enough China only gets a 10% tarriff whereas Canada {U.S. next door neighbour} gets landed with 25%.
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So Trumps newest brainwave is turning the Gaza strip into Trumpland and scattering the Palestinians to the four winds.
Actually if you say it fast enough it doesn't sound all that bad an idea, asking Egypt and Jordan to take the bulk of Palestinians while he builds a millionaires playground on the site {with a large American military base permanently stationed there of course}. Netanyahu's all for it as it rids Israel of the Palestinian problem, unfortunately it won't rid Israel of the Hamas problem which is what caused the conflict in the first place they will still be lurking in the background.
Domestically if you have a problem with your next door neighbour and it's ongoing and no resolution in sight then one way of settling it once and for all is if one or both parties move.
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Trumps warning to Hamas:- release ALL the hostages by 12 o'clock Saturday or suffer the consequences.
He is quoted as saying.."All hell will break loose if you don't" that, to me, means all those poor sods that's trekked all the way back to Gaza during the ceasefire will more than likely have to turn round and go back.
In other issues apparently he had a phone call with president Putin the other day which has not yet been disclosed, I don't know what he's planning but so much for stopping the Ukrainian war in one day.
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Trumps warning to Hamas:- release ALL the hostages by 12 o'clock Saturday or suffer the consequences.
He is quoted as saying.."All hell will break loose if you don't" that, to me, means all those poor sods that's trekked all the way back to Gaza during the ceasefire will more than likely have to turn round and go back.
In other issues apparently he had a phone call with president Putin the other day which has not yet been disclosed, I don't know what he's planning but so much for stopping the Ukrainian war in one day.
He's got a serious problem has that one, I could say I'm pleased he's not in this country but not much to choose from is there :))
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Apparently today he's had a phone conversation with Putin lasting an hour on how this war can be resolved, unfortunately he forgot to include Zelensky in this "group" chat, Zelensky only found out later,sounds to me as though they're ganging up on him.
Looks like he won't be sending anymore munitions to Ukraine which puts the U.K. in a bit of a bind namely:-
Do we continue to supply Ukraine with arms like we said we would thereby upsetting the U.S. if they do stop, meaning we will virtually have to double the output to Ukraine or do we tow Trumps line and leave Ukraine high and dry.
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He's stirring up a shed load of trouble.
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Unfortunately for the rest of the world the U.S.A. is a stand alone country, it doesn't have to rely on handouts, it doesn't need other countries to back them up during any conflict in short they're big and powerful enough to please themselves and that's where Trump comes in.
To Trump America is just one big mega company {run by him} that no one can touch {quashing the charges against him is proof enough}
He runs America like a business, like any arms to Ukraine is possibly seen as a waste of money so will stop it irrespective of the consequences to Ukraine as far as he is concerned he and Putin are very much alike they're almost buddies so heaven help us all when he starts to suck up to Kim Jong Un. How would Trump like it if Canada started moving troops over the border into Washington, Montana and North Dakota.
Can you just imagine it..America, Russia and North Korea in alliance, and where does that leave us, looks like we've got to get back into Europe a.s.a.p.
It's ok for Trump he'll be out of power in less than 5 years {but he can do a lot of damage in that time, some irreversible}
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Looks like Hamas has called Trumps bluff over the hostages, he's been left with egg on his face and Netanyahu is wondering what to do next.
Trump is so used to being surrounded by yes men who do his bidding without question and underlings quaking in their boots that he treats heads of state the same, and sooner or later he will find that mistake out.
Lets hope it's not to everyone's cost.
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Trump is now blaming Ukraine for starting the war!!!
That's like someone throwing a brick through your window and when the police arrive they say "Well you started it, you antagonised him by having a window" :-?
Not to worry, only another 4 years and what's left of the world will be rid of him.
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I reckon he's lost the plot.
He's a worry TBH.
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Not to worry, only another 4 years and what's left of the world will be rid of him.
This man is a total idiot, I have zero faith in his ability to even wipe his own backside, let alone bring peace to the world.
As it stands at the moment we have never been so close to W.W.3 as we are now, even closer than we were with the Bay of Pigs.
Even some of his most ardent supporters are having second thoughts, not to mention putting a big {spoilt} kid in charge of the U.S's economy.
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You are right.
Our World has suddenly become very dark
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Starmer met Trump today the meeting went "very well" according to some, of course it did they spent the first meeting slapping each other on the back and with Starmer sucking up to him which Trump {as a megalomaniac} readily enjoyed, and when he pulled out that letter from Charles inviting Trump for {another} state visit that really smacked of desperation, no one here likes him we proved that last time he showed up and now he's siding with Putin, If I were him I would graciously decline the invite.
Anyway they haven't got down to the nitty gritty yet, plus the fact Starmer is s**t scared of him. It's not going to go Ukraines way.
Trump wants the precious ores and minerals laying under Ukraine, Zelensky knows he's going to have to give them to him in order to keep Russia at bay, only trouble is Trump will only hold Zelensky's hand while the minerals last then he will just high tail it out of Dodge and leave Ukraine back at the start.
Plus the fact Trump and Putin will have already brokered a deal, whatever trump gets out of Ukraine Putin will get a share, remember what Trump said the other day "I'm a business man and I run America like a business".
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Went the day well.
Trump is an idiot, he's an idiot wrapped in a moron, he's got the diplomatic bargaining power of a dog turd, why Zeiensky just didn't walk out is beyond me.
It's now official, Europe, especially Ukraine, can no longer depend on America for help, I'll go as far as to say were going to even have to watch OUR backs with them. The Americans need to wake up to what's happening.
N.A.T.O. now needs to vastly up it's game as regards defence as {predicted} Trump seems to be allying himself with Russia and Nth. Korea so the only thing I heard him say on the news today that made any sense was World War 3 and he's the one that's going to start it.
Whatever the row in Parliament is about upping defence spending it needs to at least double, and N.A.T.O. countries need to do the same.
What do Europeans want for the next few months, drastically cut back on the niceties or end up living in a place that resembles Gaza?
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It was awful. I think this may well be a plan that has backfired on him and his side kick. They haven't come out of it looking good
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One big realisation has come out of the past few days,
With Starmer ramping up the rhetoric over increasing the defence budget and getting our armed forces "battle ready" is the sad truth that over the past 14 years or so the Tories have depleted our armed forces to such an extent we are no longer in a position to defend ourselves let alone help another nation out.
What the N.A.T.O. countries need to do is beat Trump at his own game, what he is planning for Ukraine by taking over their power plants etc in order to "protect" Ukraine is for N.A.T.O. countries to do it first. Let European countries take over Ukraine, by possibly buying the country {temporarily} if you will and flood the country with people from the E.U.
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Trump has set his sights firmly on Greenland, with the way he's talking it seems he's going to move extra troops on Greenland whatever Denmark may say.
Having seen Greenland on the news it's twice the size of the U.S.A. Unfortunately at least 90% of it is uninhabited as the population of Greenland is only about the population of a large British town so I can't really see how anyone's going to stop him, they've already got an American base there so they're part of the landscape already.
N.A.T.O. should do the same, wherever Trump goes N.A.T.O. goes as well and as Denmark is a N.A.T.O. country there shouldn't be any problems.
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I thought I'd woken up this morning in a parallel universe, some bright spark in the U.S. is convincing Trump to run for ANOTHER term!!
Apparently you could run, for a third time, if you had a majority in Congress which they say wouldn't happen the other suggestion is that the vice president runs for office at the next election with Trump as V.P. then if Vance gets in they just swop roles....madness
Trump is a legend in his own mind, and here's me thinking Putins a dictator!
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I thought I'd woken up this morning in a parallel universe, some bright spark in the U.S. is convincing Trump to run for ANOTHER term!!
Apparently you could run, for a third time, if you had a majority in Congress which they say wouldn't happen the other suggestion is that the vice president runs for office at the next election with Trump as V.P. then if Vance gets in they just swop roles....madness
Trump is a legend in his own mind, and here's me thinking Putins a dictator!
Trump certainly does want to run - into the Ocean and not return
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9 P.M. our time tonight and we should learn what Trump has in store for the world with trade tariffs.
I'm no expert on these things but if Trumps got his fingers in it it won't be good.
You have to ask yourselves "Is it feasible to stop trading with America". The worlds a big place and the U.S. is just one country, there's a large part of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada the list goes on, if the rest of the world snubs the U.S. trade wise then they've only themselves to blame. We need to concentrate on trading with our European partners and others, show the U.S. we can manage without them.
One example would be to create a European Amazon style supply and delivery system that the whole world could use but would not export to the U.S. just imagine it the thought of tens of thousands of Amazon jobs going in the U.S. all because they've lost a very large chunk of the world market........now that WOULD be a tariff I could live with.
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Looks like things are starting to unravel in La La Land. According to the news shares in Tesla seem to be on the slide and there's a big drop in Tesla sales {and that's in the U.S. alone}
For some reason, that is best known to Trump, he's still blaming Ukraine for the war and can't understand why Zelensky doesn't broker a peace deal with Russia to end it, after all Russia only wants a third of Ukraine plus Crimea so what's the hold up!
I still maintain Trump and Putin have got their heads together and are planning to divide Ukraine up between them, no one in their right mind sees Ukraine as the aggressor.
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So Trump is planning to re open Alcatraz! To house the most dangerous criminals.
Never thought I'd say this but good for him, now he's using his noddle.
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Looks like things are starting to unravel in La La Land. According to the news shares in Tesla seem to be on the slide and there's a big drop in Tesla sales {and that's in the U.S. alone}
For some reason, that is best known to Trump, he's still blaming Ukraine for the war and can't understand why Zelensky doesn't broker a peace deal with Russia to end it, after all Russia only wants a third of Ukraine plus Crimea so what's the hold up!
I still maintain Trump and Putin have got their heads together and are planning to divide Ukraine up between them, no one in their right mind sees Ukraine as the aggressor.
I think they have as well but if Trump thinks he can cosy up to Putin he's making a big mistake. he says one thing and does another!!
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Looks like Trump is deciding whether to bomb Iran or not!!
Because he has the diplomacy of a dog turd I'm surprised he just doesn't toss a coin.
The fate of the world depends which side of the bed he got out of this morning, it's frightening, meanwhile my Anderson shelter is coming on apace!
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His coin came up TrumpS :))
Sorry he's so unpredictable he never should have the position he holds
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Talk about Starmer U turning what about Trump.......
A couple of months ago he:-
Stopped arming Ukraine because he accused them of starting the war with Russia
Said that N.A.T.O. was a spent force
Said he and Putin were "Getting on well"
NOW
He is arming Ukraine because he said Russia started the war
Having talks with N.A.T.O. because he thinks their the bees knees
Threatening Putin with heavy tariffs because he's not frightened of Trump.
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Talk about Starmer U turning what about Trump.......
A couple of months ago he:-
Stopped arming Ukraine because he accused them of starting the war with Russia
Said that N.A.T.O. was a spent force
Said he and Putin were "Getting on well"
NOW
He is arming Ukraine because he said Russia started the war
Having talks with N.A.T.O. because he thinks their the bees knees
Threatening Putin with heavy tariffs because he's not frightened of Trump.
He can't make his mind up and stick to anything.
Just a mouth piece on legs.
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There are rumours that D,T, got into the White House {the first time} because he is a Russian plant. There was a documentary on the box the other night and I taped it but only seen about 10 minutes of it so far. This could explain why there was such a mix up at the count when Biden was elected.
I know nothing about American politics but nothing would surprise me.
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There are rumours that D,T, got into the White House {the first time} because he is a Russian plant. There was a documentary on the box the other night and I taped it but only seen about 10 minutes of it so far. This could explain why there was such a mix up at the count when Biden was elected.
I know nothing about American politics but nothing would surprise me.
mmmm Dandelion or Marigold?
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So, Ghislaine Maxwell is starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
She's saying Trump was never involved in the Epstein shenanigans and come to think of it neither was prince Andrew!!!
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here especially when you think the fly in the ointment, the lady connected with Andrew has now committed suicide..... and her best buddy Trump is able to grant pardons.
My guess is she will be out by Christmas.