ITV 7.30 Tonight. Don't Hate Us.

[Fly]

We're utterly disgusted at this programme.
Not the fact the programme was shown. Glad it was !

How can/could people, supposed friends of the victim, carry out the crime,
then walk away, laughing and joking !!!
Makes us want to retch 
Her only crime, she was special needs and wanted friends 

It's akin to old people getting abused in care homes.
Who put's people in charge of said homes, pick the one with the cheapest bid to run it, sod the care !

It's all wrong, money/profit before people care.

[Alsatian]

I saw that too fly -  and i felt exactly the same as you, they want stringing up.

[Old Cruser]

I missed this and didn't tape it as I didn't expect visitors, what exactly was it about?

[Alsatian]

I missed this and didn't tape it as I didn't expect visitors, what exactly was it about?

It was presented by a young comedienne who 'suffers' from Cerebral Palsy (paralysis of the brain - usually affecting speech/movement) - or as she liked to call it 'wobbliness'. She said it sounded better and was easier for her to say! I thought she was an amazing person 

It showed how much hatred (yes, that is an emotive term) there is to people with disabilities, one young female with learning disability was 'befriended' by a young girl and her friends. Unfortunately it was purely for their amusement as she was subjected to all kinds of ridicule and torture (eg made to drink urine disguised in a pop can), ultimately ending with her death (by her friends) on a disused railway line. My feelings for those scum are unprintable.

Another case was a man who suffered with varying mobility problems, meaning that he sometimes could get around on crutches - whereas at other times he was resigned to using his wheelchair. He and his family where subjected to vandalism (egg throwing at windows, graffiti etc etc) and name calling. It was assumed that, as he didn't need a wheelchair 24/7 he was a benefits scrounger - not all disability is visible (eg heart attack, angina, artificial knee/hip joints etc etc)

As my sister (aged 63) suffers from Cerebral Palsy and suffers also from mental disabilities (she has a mental age of 8 years) I can totally understand how these people feel, but, as well as the people themselves, thought should also go to their families. Many's the time that I would come home from school in tears because other kids were going round calling people 'spastic' for missing a goal in a game of football. This continued into the workplace and, although things have improved over recent years, there is still a stigma attached to disability.

This is why the Spastics Society changed their name and are now called 'SCOPE' and, for anyone who may be interested, the term 'spastic' is not the disease but simply a description of the effects of Cerebral Palsy, and means by definition 'uncontrolled and jerky movement'.

I would like to make it clear that I love my sister dearly and wouldn't wish for her to be any different. 

Sorry for the highly emotive post.

[Pete]

Good post Alsatian, thanks for sharing.

There are some evil bastards out there who should be thoroughly ashamed - but they won't because they have no humanity or compassion.

[Fly]

Yes I'm aware Pete's posted 

Sorry for the highly emotive post.

Why you sorry ?

Big respect for Alsatian and his post      

@Alsatian
What's your take on the C4 programme, 'I'm Spazticus', it was on earlier this week ?
Our_Lass thought the programme title was, 'wrong'.
Apparently it was comedy sketches, 'Dom Jolly style', but done by disabled people.
Wednesdays episode was a dwarf punk interrupting people's lunches.
We never actually watched it, bit late for us.

[Alsatian]

@Alsatian
What's your take on the C4 programme, 'I'm Spazticus', it was on earlier this week ?
Our_Lass thought the programme title was, 'wrong'.
Apparently it was comedy sketches, 'Dom Jolly style', but done by disabled people.
Wednesdays episode was a dwarf punk interrupting people's lunches.
We never actually watched it, bit late for us.

I didn't watch it either as I found the title offensive (to me) and brought back too many memories. I agree 100% with Our_Lass.

[Fly]

Mixed reactions on this link I found.
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/08/21/i%E2%80%99m-spazticus-in-the-run-up-to-the-paralympics-channel-4-fails-to-impress/

Still think the title was wrong !

[Old Cruser]

I have seen the spazticus advertised but like others didn't like the title so wouldn't watch it although I could see it was an 'attempt' at being funny.

This other programme sounds heart breaking little wonder it made you so sad.

Alsatian -  I have been involved for many years with adults and children with disabilities (some profoundly disabled) of many kinds both physical and learning disabled, my work has been my joy, which is why, although past retiring age, I still carry on. I am sure your sister has brought many pleasures into your life and I would expect nothing less than the loving caring response you have given.

There but for the grace of God --- as the saying goes and hopefully the low life such as the people (sorry no! not even animals!  ) will one day get their justice for the way they treated the people in the programme 

[Alsatian]

I have seen the spazticus advertised but like others didn't like the title so wouldn't watch it although I could see it was an 'attempt' at being funny.

This other programme sounds heart breaking little wonder it made you so sad.

Alsatian -  I have been involved for many years with adults and children with disabilities (some profoundly disabled) of many kinds both physical and learning disabled, my work has been my joy, which is why, although past retiring age, I still carry on. I am sure your sister has brought many pleasures into your life and I would expect nothing less than the loving caring response you have given.

There but for the grace of God --- as the saying goes and hopefully the low life such as the people (sorry no! not even animals!  ) will one day get their justice for the way they treated the people in the programme 

When my daughter and husband used to keep the Royal Oak, my wife and I used to help out - mainly over lunch/early afternoon periods. We had quite a few disabled people/groups come to the pub and they became regulars, simply because they were all made to feel welcome and were treated with respect (which doesn't mean being patronising to their disabilities).

It's a shame that we were made to feel 'special' because we made them feel welcome, these people have just as much right as anyone else to go out and have a good time.

*slips off soapbox getting down*!!!

[Old Cruser]

Well said Alsatian