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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 07:54:48 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 08:01:09 PM »
So are you suggesting that there should be no cuts?

Surely if there are cuts to be made, you would assume that the local authorities would be best placed to decide where they should fall within their own area.

If no council services are being used by a second home, what is your justification for charging full council tax?

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 08:03:39 PM »
>> And who's paying to clean up and repair said homes when they get trashed?

You assume that homeless people always trash houses?

I'm sure there are many homeless people who wouldn't. Why not address the problem of homelessness?
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2012, 08:05:27 PM »
So are you suggesting that there should be no cuts?


It the cuts coinciding with passing the benefits responsibility to councils. Devolving the responsibility but with less budget is going to make them look less efficient.

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2012, 08:13:04 PM »
>> Would you give up your home to a homeless person when you are next on holiday to let them have a nice roof over their heads for a fortnight?

With due respect, that's a little naive - homeless people can't move into house and then move out after a week - they need a lot more permanent solution.

>> Second homes tend not to be low cost housing, so I would also assume the government would not be interested in buying detache bungalows in  Cornwall.

I lived in Cornwall in the early seventies and the reason I couldn't afford to buy a house (and the kids of the locals couldn't afford to buy a house) was that rich people from up country bought them up as second homes.
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2012, 08:21:29 PM »
2 new posts after I typed this  ::)
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Joking apart, if you can afford a second home, then you should pay for it.
Someone cleans the street, light's it, maintains the roads around it and keeps the sewers clean.
If you can afford two houses, you can afford the tax on them.
If you can afford a posh car, you can afford the upkeep.
As regards Andy's comment about being left a house in a will to sell, I think the pro's outweigh the cons. 

@Cchris, If I promise to cut the grass, and Our_Lass gives it a quick hoover, can we stop in your half a million quid bungalow in Cornwall next August for a couple of week  ;)

My Uncle had a caravan in skeggy years ago, and I mean years ago, cutting the grass for a week was my families summer holiday. Cheers Uncle Alwyn RIP :)


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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 08:31:22 PM »
>> The best way to solve the issue, or at least try to correct it, is to build new affordable housing - build cost on 2 bed flats in the right area could be as little as £30k per unit, fully fitted.  Thes could either be built by the Government, and no doubt cost £60k per unit to build given their inability to obtain value for money.. or built privately and rented back to the government with suitable guarantees on income and repair costs if those placed in the blocks trash them.

Problem is the banks wont (in any attractive way) lend to smaller start up developers, and large developers want quick return on sale of properties not drip feed rental income.

That's what I meant about a permanent solution. But money dictates the ways of the world now and is on track to kill the planet with greed. You have mentioned in the past about moving to another country - if folks don't address the out-of-control capitalism and global warming there will be massive wars as the homeless and starving head to whatever countries are sunject to the least damage. Think about what life will be like when your kids grow up and have kids, it's quite a sobering thought.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 08:48:41 PM »
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Or is this just another "If you are rich then you can afford it" line?
I don't do, 'lines' Cchris. I post, I fcuk up now and then, and sometimes post daft questions without thinking.
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Why not ban the rich from ebay, as they are rich they can afford to buy new, so the bargains should be left for the poor to grab?.
I never said or implied that  :(

Haven't people always paid to the country for land they own properties on. Rateable Value ?

The 'Poll Tax' in my memory was the biggest Tory rip-off ever introduced.
Mum and dad paid their rates.
Thatcher and the like decided the other 3, over 18 year olds, still living at home, should pay the same, EACH !!!! WTF
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Re: Paging Cllr Slack (again)
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2012, 09:18:27 PM »
The 'Poll Tax' in my memory was the biggest Tory rip-off ever introduced.
Mum and dad paid their rates.
Thatcher and the like decided the other 3, over 18 year olds, still living at home, should pay the same, EACH !!!! WTF

The little old dear next door paid the same amount of rates.
She didn't create 5 times the rubbish to be collected.
She probably stayed in at night so didn't use the street lights
She only damaged the roads with one car not 2 or 3
So why shouldn't she pay less? or at least 1 share to your 5.
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