Paging Cllr Slack (again)

[chesterfieldchris]

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[Slacker]

Bit of a red herring there.

Biggest spenders are Education followed by Social Services. Sewers are paid for from your water charges.

2 big problems with Poll Tax. Firstly the poor paid as much as the rich, second imposing an addition tax on teenagers made it even harder for them to save up and get themselves on to the property ladder.

[chesterfieldchris]

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[Slacker]

As with income tax it's related to what you can afford. Social Sevices uses take up a large part of the income from this tax and probably the least able go pay. I certainly wouldnt want a system of compulsory fee paying schools so that only vhildren of the wealthy get a decent education.

Bins are most visible expenditure but not that dear by comparison. Only about 10% goes to the borough council.

Property is a good guide to someon's wealth and there is the 25% reduction for sole occupancy as a cushion

[Fly]

At one point there were 5 of us in one house all paying full council rax. still only had 1 wheelie bin. Shouldn't at home teenagers at least only paid a %. That was my point.

[therealjr]

Property is a good guide to someon's wealth

and it always helps if you can take advantage of a tory party policy and buy your house for a knock down price.
Or would that be hypocracy?

[chesterfieldchris]

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[Slacker]

and it always helps if you can take advantage of a tory party policy and buy your house for a knock down price.
Or would that be hypocracy?

Good deal for tenant, not good for council's housing stock. Bought mine a long time before I joined the Labour party

[Slacker]

So in short, we want everyone to pay their way - unless they can't, and then someone else can pay.  )

You may have had five people living in the house and only one bin, but Ill bet it was a darn sight heavier than the little old couples bin next door paying just as much..

Little old dear living on a pension thats been eroded may be in a house she has bought and paid for over the decades she has contributed, and now has to fork out a ridiculous sum on council services she doesn't use just because her house is large.

Then you could have a millionaire living in a smaller home paying less than the struggling granny in her larger house next door.   Using a house value as a marker on how much the residents of that property use the council services is just wrong.   Its the same as taxing larger engined vehicles based on the ir CO2 emissions.   A large engine sports car that does 500 miles a year will pollute much less than a Ford Fiesta driven daily - but because tax is based on CO2, the larger car pays more.

People in council houses are being encouraged to downsize when their families move on so what's wrong with giving homeowners an incentive to downsize?

[chesterfieldchris]

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[Slacker]

More a carrot than a stick I would say.

People who are on benefits in rental accommodation are going to get rent paid for the size of house appropriate to their needs not ones with spare bedrooms because families need more rooms.

My parents downsized to a bungalow (owned not rented) after my sister & myself left. Better than rattling round in a larger house and also potentially saves Social Services the cost of a stair-lift as they get older.

[chesterfieldchris]

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[therealjr]

But that answers none of the questions.

of course it doesn't, he IS a politician you know!!!

[Fly]

Let's use the term £1000 as a standard Council Tax amount.

You may have had five people living in the house and only one bin, but Ill bet it was a darn sight heavier than the little old couples bin next door paying just as much.

They'd pay £2000, we were paying, as a family £5000, for the same 1 bin, albeit a bit heavier 
I've said before and will say again, if 'we' on here, could solve the country's problems, we'd all be rich 
In the mean time, let's keep debating it ;-)

[chesterfieldchris]

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