Syrian chemical weapons attack

[Fly]

Yes I can think of a few people I'd like to nuke. Joke, perhaps just a few people I don't have the time of day for.
But chemical bombings, just how deluded are some of the people running countries that could do that.
The country will always deny it and say its a splinter group.
Who's funding the splinter group ??

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/24/syrian-chemical-weapons-rebel

[Old Cruser]

I've been following this Fly. What kind of humans would do this. Did anyone else watch ITV news at 6pm yesterday? One of the shots was a woman and young child with heads covered. Twice during this shot I am sure I saw the child slightly move it's arm? It bothered me so much I watched news at 10pm but they didn't show the clip again. America seems to be dragging it's heels on this one

[Slacker]

Did USA care about child victims when they nuked Japan in WW2? Did the allies care about child victims when Iraq was bombed?

[Fly]

Did USA care about child victims when they nuked Japan in WW2

Same 'care' Japan had when they bombed Pearl Harbour. Not saying retaliation on that scale is right.

I'm just hoping no one fires on Syria.  Don't think it's our business to jump in.
IMHO

[Old Cruser]

Looking as if they are weighing up the options of the best way to have a pop at them.
It's not helped that the UN team have been shot at en route to where the C/W landed - if that's what they were.
Russia's growling at us to back off.

[Pete]

I think it's a question of degree. Apparently we can live with tens of thousands of innocent men, women and kids being slaughtered, but are we OK with hundreds of thousands?

[Fly]

Who's biggest, who's hardest.
Japan bomb Pearl Harbour, USA say right batsards, learn a lesson, job done.

Syrian Government throw chemical weapons against Syrian rebels, and kill innocent Syrians.
So who are the USA and UK going to fire against, the Syrian government and more innocent Syrians.
Therefore doing what the Syrian rebels want to do, over throw the government.
Quick, someone put me right, are the rebels right and the government so corrupt ?

[Pete]

I think that question is for the experts. I was just pointing out that there comes a point when we cannot stand on the sidelines and watch genocide take place.

I would have hoped that some bright person would have hatched a plan to have Assad popped off. I'll reserve judgement on who was sniping at the UN inspectors. Again, it's most likely the be Assad's lot - but the opposition could have engineered the situation.

As to your last point, I am not sure about both sides, but there will come a time when, if the International community does not do something, it will be millions dying.

[Fly]

My post wasn't aimed at your last post Pete, just the thread in general 
You make some good points in your reply.

If the International community does not do something, it will be millions dying

Then let the UN decide that. Not the USA or UK.

[Old Cruser]

I have heard on the news that the rebels also have some chemical weapons, which is the governments argument in Syria, it has been suggested that the rebels have turned on their own thus making others think it must be the government.

The last news update I heard on this was it was 'a possibility that direct strikes at the government may take place to wipe it out.

I think the USA were to issue a statement around 7pm our time but I haven't watched the news since 6pm

[Scimitar]

Its delicate this one, but surely something needs to be done. The entire UN need to be together on this including Russia & China. Humanitarian aid more than anything to stop civilian killing.
The entire world needs to sort this out, not just UK & USA, who have failed in every conflict they have been involved in. It needs a worldwide involvement to make Syria safe. We can't just start bombing them indiscriminatly not knowing who we are killing, and then start talking afterwards.
We need a unilateral (global) agreement for armies & humanitarian help to go there. 
How many times have we seen other countries help us though when we believe we are "doing the right thing" Ultimately we have come out of these conflicts with no actual progress.
It's time we sat back a bit to see what the rest of the world thinks before we wade in with our "diminishing" & overworked armed forces. UK is not the World Police

[Pete]

Check this out.

Busted! U.S. Backs False Flag Chemical Attack in Syria!

[Old Cruser]

Anything is possible so I wouldn't discount it Pete, haven't had chance to get up to date with the situation today

[Pete]

>> haven't had chance to get up to date with the situation today

I think we're going to war again. I think Obama is scheduled to make his intentions known this week - and Cameron is bringing all MPs back to Parliament on Thursday to debate the situation.

My opinion? I think America will go in - and we will follow them, again...

[Old Cruser]

One of these days we are going to get on big back lash from a country business! our government have stuck their beaks in!