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An old Chezzie tradition
« on: April 13, 2012, 08:53:25 PM »
How often does this happen?
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 09:07:28 PM »
Mr Harvey and Mr Haslam if I'm not wrong.
Founders of the Derbyshire Union of Mine workers.
After working in the mines for 10 years and being a member of the Union,
it somewhat pi$$es me off when these statues are degraded.  :( Bit harsh I know  ;)
I have other reasons for this though !

The house attached to the back of the building was my Grandma and Granddads home when I was I kid.
They were the caretakers of the Union Offices.
I've spent many a few hours exploring that building as a kid.
My aunties lived there as teenagers.


Nice post poppy  :)
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 10:47:05 AM »
Living just around the corner, I see 'em most days. TBH it makes me laugh.

One of my fave Chesterfield tradition of the 1960s was the annual defacing of Barbara Hepworth's "Rosewall", the sculpture that was in the little pond thing at the AGD. About once a year a few fine art students came down from Penmore to do the dirty deed.

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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2012, 05:04:08 PM »
Quote from: poppy on April 13, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
How often does this happen?

There's also some graffiti written on the inscriptions now - don't ask me what as it will come under the heading of a senior moment!  8)
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 07:52:08 PM »
TBH I don't mind the cones, they were only on there a few hours. However I'm pretty peed off to see that someone has written "murderer" and "slave driver" on the quite recently refurbished statues and it's been there for over a week. Phone call to the council in order I think.  >:(
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2012, 07:53:37 PM »
That's disgraceful!
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2012, 08:14:38 PM »
Quote from: poppy on April 21, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
TBH I don't mind the cones, they were only on there a few hours. However I'm pretty peed off to see that someone has written "murderer" and "slave driver" on the quite recently refurbished statues and it's been there for over a week. Phone call to the council in order I think.  >:(

Don't think they come under council ownership (if you mean the ones on the old MUM HQ) because there was some concern that when they got sandblasted (or whatever) it made the writing less clear
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2012, 08:42:29 PM »
If they're private property it's the owner's responsibility to clean them - pity it hasn't been done after a week or more.
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 12:03:19 PM »
You're right guys. Of course it wont be the councils responsibility. Looks like its me and a bottle of bleach then! >:(
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 05:02:25 PM »
Poppy sent me a PM.

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Hello Fly
Hope you don't mind me sending you a PM. You mentioned that your family had connections with the Mineworkers Offices when you were younger. Do you recall if there was a war memorial in there? It's a long shot I know. I did ask an elderly gentleman in there a few years ago and he said he didn't think so, but with the statues going up in 1915 I can't think that the mineworkers wouldn't have honoured the chaps lost so soon after in WW1.
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I contacted my aunty, here's her reply.

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Hiya,
I've had a chat with **** and we can't remember whether there was an actual war memorial on the offices/council chamber. The mineworkers were exempt from serving in the forces as they were an essential trade so maybe there weren't very many who were lost as a direct result of the wars?
Could your friend contact either the solicitors who currently use that building or the Union - wherever their offices are now?.

Anybody know anything ?
I'm not sure if Derbyshire still have an NUM office.
Maggie shut all the pits  ::)
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 05:08:37 PM »
I wouldn't have thought there was a war memorial there. If the statues went up in 1915 that was three years before the war ended - and I cant imagine anyone taking down a war memorial, leaving two statues. Just seems so unlikely.

But I could be wrong, I have been before...
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 05:15:57 PM »
Poppy did state 'in' the offices Pete  ;)
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 05:17:03 PM »
Ahh - so she did - my bad.  :(
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 06:39:08 PM »
Thanks for the help guys. Thats a really good point that the miners were exempt from call up, though I know some did join, often serving as tunellers. Its a bit shocking but war memorials/ rolls of honour are sometimes removed and discarded these days, and whilst I don't think the people connected with the Mineworkers Office would have done such a thing someone coming after them might. :(
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Re: An old Chezzie tradition
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 07:56:18 PM »
Judging by my aunties reply, and her quick contact with her elder sister, I don't think anything existed.

The official NUM website states the Derbyshire Office is at 100 Saltergate ??
http://www.num.org.uk/page/Contacts

I'll ring them in the morning. Though I think the NUM site may be outdated.
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