@Cchris Re: pot/kettle
Every gov blames the one before. I meant did the last tory gov think 'Oh well', we lost this election.
We'll just have to wait till we get another term in office and make the rich richer again.
Just like I thought the last Lab gov would look after the working class, which, as far as I feel, they didn't do as much as I expected.
Re: The 84/85 strike. A little story into someone's life.
and those who chose to stand around fire pits shouting obscenities at those who went to work are still harping back and blaming Maggie for their p**s poor lot in life.
Men and women were fighting against a gov about pit closures. It was their lives the gov was messing about with.
You weren't there, didn't see it. Have you read it in a book, have you spoke to miners, asked their comments.
Have you studied it. Well here's my p**s poor lot in life. Probably started about the time you were leaving school.
I was working at the pit. Met someone, got a mortgage, house, car etc.
8 years after the strike, after earning good money for my toils in a dirty/filthy/damp/dark sometimes hell hole of a place,
I was made redundant. 1993. I got about 1 years wage worth of redundancy payment.
This was the same week my son was born, 7 week premature. This sort of puts you on a downer.
My partner at that time was suffering from medical problems and not working.
For the next year we plodded on, paying the bills, me looking unsucessfully for employment, and watching the money go.
I was going down even deeper.
I enrolled on a year long computer course, 9 to 5, in Sheffield, I lived in Bolsover so lots of commuting and costs, trying to gain some further qualifications to back up the numerous GCE and CSE's I'd attained at school. I'd done reasonably well at school and could have stayed on through sixth form, maybe even uni.
(Working at the pit had always been number 1 for me though. (Family tradition, plus a job straight from school.)
I stuck the year out, passed the NVQ, plus a C&G, still looking for employment, still no success.
By now I was feeling really low, 2 years without a job, a son with slight learning difficulties.
1995. My daughter was born.
She was born with Bilateral Choanal atresia. Operated on in Sheff Childrens Hospital at a day old.
Over the next six months we were to-ing and fro-ing to Sheff for more operations on her, doctors, specialists etc,
it all became too much, me and my partner split. She took the kids.
She got a council house.
I was getting the mortgage paid, but couldn't pay the bills on my own. The house was reposessed.
I'd lost everything. And had nothing.
Can't get much more down can I.
I finally got a part time taxi driving job. Over the next 6 months this turned into full time. A job's a job.
Then I met Our_Lass,
My life was back on the up.
1998, my dad died aged 53.
That was a serious blow, but I'd got Our_Lass for support.
'She', got me through it.
My life had been taking a downward spiral for 3 years after losing my job at the pit.
Why am I a tory basher, cos I hate with vengance the type of comment I quoted you as saying at the top of this post.
The miners and Scargill may have been wrong, perhaps the pit's weren't financially viable. I may be deluded.
But coming from someone who was 6 at the time

Just for the record, I don't read any news papers, they're all full of sh**, I just start news threads from google news.
Irrespective of what paper they are from.
I don't always agree with Pete either. But I don't slag him off in public.