Police shootings, Manchester. Awful :-(

[Fly]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204991/Dale-Cregan-Two-policewomen-aged-32-23-lured-estate-false-burglary-report-shot-dead.html

[Alsatian]

Awful thing to happen, RIP the two policewomen and let's hope the perpetrator gets what's coming to him.

[Pete]

If it's the guy who gave himself up to the police, he's a right thug. It showed him on CCTV throwing a hand grenade...

[simondjuk]

such a sad loss.  RIP.

[k4blades]

Yes, tragic, just shows what the Police do on our behalf.
2 females, both un-armed, and it sounds like it was pre-planned and set up. And the image of the guy throwing a grenade into a flat.....they should lock him up and throw away the key.
They are also saying that people in the area were sheltering him, lock them up to.

[therealjr]

Got to say I'm a bit puzzled by all this.
This guy has enough about him to make a phone call to the police to lure two officers into a trap.
He proceeds to shoot both of them killing one outright and fatally injuring the second.
He then walks into a police station and gives himself up??????
I really don't get it but then again I suppose I'm not psychotic.

[Old Cruser]

Getting more like America every year here in UK.
Very sad this.
There are some warped people walking amongst us 

[handy]

If it is proved without a shadow of doubt why do we lock people away for life,surely the best method is to eliminate the problem,the police will soon be carrying guns on a daily basis which may alienate them from normal members of the public and after all nobody derserves to be killed doing their job.

[Pete]

>> Getting more like America every year here in UK.

I don't know why, but our leaders seem to admire America - I don't... 

>> nobody derserves to be killed doing their job

Absolutely, and especially in this case, a couple of young women with most of their lives ahead of them.

[Scimitar]

I can't praise the Police enough. We are practically alone around the globe in that our officers are unarmed. Many visitors to this country can't believe that we have unarmed police. Two officers responded to an apparent burglary in accordance with police guidelines. Lured in to a trap and killed mercilessly.
This nutter knew what he was doing, and had third party assistance.
I feel so sorry for the families and colleagues of the two officers.
The police themselves in a survey do not think they would be better to be armed.It seems police fatalities happen when they are armed as well - you get shootouts-villain vs police.
By the way, please don't forget the other emergency services, Fire ,Ambulance, because they are also very dedicated people facing funding cuts as well.

[Fly]

I'll never get why 'local lads', 'anywhere, not town', seem to think it's ok to attack firemen trying to do their job.
Why are they seen as the enemy ???

Night, gone !

[Old Cruser]

@ Pete I am also mtstified why our government seem to admire America it one of the few countries I have no desire to visit - except as a means to get on a ship of course 

Do we really want be be in a country that has a need for armed police?
I don't - but we may have no choice eventually.

[Alsatian]

I just can't get my breath!! Dale Cregan is on hunger strike because:

1. He is separated from other inmates as there is a reported bounty on his one remaining eye

2. He is wanting to be relocated to Strangeways to be nearer his family

Think yourself fecking lucky that you're still alive. Just think about what the families of your victims are feeling - your problems are nothing in comparison.

[Old Cruser]

They could just not bother going into his cell then if that's what he wants - can't take away his human rights can they