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Bedroom tax
« on: December 29, 2012, 07:01:45 PM »
Since Buckingham Palace has 240 bedooms and David Cameron is forever telling us, we are all in this together - surely an example should be set to us all by making it that the first people to be moved into alternative smaller accommodation are the Queen and Prince Phillip.  Or will the rules only apply to ordinary people?

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Re: Bedroom tax
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 07:20:14 PM »
This has already been suggested --- and yes I agree with you Pepsiperfect - it does only apply to ordinary people.
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Re: Bedroom tax
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 07:48:37 PM »
Is the Queen on benefits or DLA ?
I dare say she pays her dues nowadays in tax  q?
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 07:55:25 PM »
Since Buckingham Palace has 240 bedooms and David Cameron is forever telling us, we are all in this together - surely an example should be set to us all by making it that the first people to be moved into alternative smaller accommodation are the Queen and Prince Phillip.  Or will the rules only apply to ordinary people?

One slight problem old son. The Queen doesn't own Buckingham Palace. It is held in trust by the nation as an official residence for the Sovereign. So the only way she moves out is upon death or abdication.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 09:37:56 PM »
After looking at posts on FB tonight, this new tax ain't going down too well.
I don't think the minority understand, it only affects those of benefits.
They just think if you live in a 3 bed house with 1 child, it's gonna cost you.

Obviously, I don't agree with it  :(

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 11:45:09 AM »
Yes it is for those on benefits but I think the % is too high, set at 14% for one bedroom not being used and 25% for over the one which is considered too many. This means that children (even disabled) will be expected to share, not against children having to share although some disabled children need a room on their own. My gripe with this is that it has seemingly be done with one straight black line - if your on the right side of the line you are ok - but others who do need this extra room for care when ill (such as my daughter) are on the wrong side. I can tell you it is going to cost her £60.00 MORE a month than what she is already paying - with the bedroomtax/ council tax combined. That's an awful lot of money.
problem is it's just being brought in - and dumped on the Local Councils who will then have to sort ot the mess it's leaving.
IMO this should have been implemented at a much lower rate and anyone who wants to rent in the future (council/ private) rented homes be made well aware of the costings.
Couple this with the PIP and universal credit they are bringing in will bring many genuine people to their knees as the system they have devised to re-calculate this is done by points - so very black and white system. i am also told that the people who are interviewing for the changes in this have just 6 WEEKS training! So they are obviously much more ABLE to assess someones condition than the Dr's etc ------ aren't they???? It stinks. >:(
My information is from forums for disabled people who have people on there answering their questions.
I do agree that there are many out there who have jumped onto this benefits system or find it pays to work LESS hours and get the rents paid - that has to be wrong, but the way this witch hunt is being done is wrone ---- remember many innocent people died in the witch hunts!

Now look what you've done --- sent me into a rant  :))
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Re: Bedroom tax
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 05:55:31 PM »
Maybe it should be replaced with a "Spare Drive For Rent" tax :) :) :)
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 06:17:10 PM »
@ CC my daughters place has a wet room with grab rails, pull down shower seat as she couldn't stand to take a shower, it has grab rails to the front ramped path to the door. We have paid out ourselves around 3 grand plus to have the back made accessible/ outer accessible door - not knowing that these big changes were coming. this was to be her home for life so it was worth it to us to pay out ourselves ( we didn't expect or ask for handouts from anyone) and set her up properly. She hasn't been there two years yet!
We applied and it was accepted for a two bedroomed property at a S/W suggestion so she had help in the night when ill. Not the S/w fault as nothing was known about this and I thought it was good sound advice.
My daughter may well have to return back home - and we will be around 14 grand less off  ( part of her inheritance early) as this is what we have paid out to give her the start she needed.
Still it's ok isn't it --- cos  the government need the cash!  >:(
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Re: Bedroom tax
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 07:18:44 PM »
>> Still it's ok isn't it --- cos  the government need the cash!

Yep - they gave away our millions to bail out the bankers - cos its the bankers that control the politicians and the world.

Lets hope they don't screw up again, we've nothing left to give them...
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012, 09:36:45 PM »
@OC I never realised the severity of how this can hit some people.

Hope my ignorance of how the 'real deal' might affect you actually might or does.
If that makes sense  :(
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012, 10:34:20 PM »
@ Fly they are also re-assing for the DLA and making it harder by using a points system I am told, so again there will be a line and many who should get the higher rate (to be called enhanced rate) will not get it. That was my meaning about training these people who assess will be given prior to this, although I do believe it has now been put back until 2015 whilst a pilot is run is certain areas ( I believe).
Not too clear at the moment how the PIP will work (personal Independant plan - I think), but I think we can assume it won't be giving anymore money  but taking it away from most. I will have to be reading more about that as I think that starts next year!
I think the % as been set too high which was maybe intended?
Not being completely against a bedroom tax but I do think it should have least have been started for 'new' tenants with a lower % per room so they knew just what they were going into.
Moving costs money -- my daughter can't afford to move as i am sure many others can't either.
I am also told that people in private rented homes will actually pay more than L/A tennants, although I can't remember the full in and outs of that one.
Little wonder the government are having opposition about all this.
They are playing 'God' with many peoples lives and condem other countries for driving certain cultures out of their homes - and they do it in their own country.
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