Remember this guy before the world turned stupid.

[Fly]

It's a little guy I used to know.

[Pete]

The world hasn't turned stupid - it's just changed

[simondjuk]

My mums other half had one of these.  It was always at the top of the stairs, even after the PC brigade appeared

The world has gone mad.

[Pete]

Got to disagree with both of you, the world hasn't gone mad, it has just moved on.

The golliwog is disrespectful to black people and should be left to disappear into history along with sending children up chimneys and locking up unmarried mothers in mental homes.

IMHO

[k4blades]

Please explain why its disrespectful.

These days, dolls are made with allsorts of skin colours, because the PC brigade think that it will help growing girls realise that people have different skin colours. So whats the difference, the origins, one is developed from the slave trade, and one from the PC brigade....but the fact is most uses don't care about the origins, they just see it as what it is, some form of toy with no intention of offending anyone, and no intention of being disrespectful...just used for personal comfort.

[Pete]

Easy for white man to say.

[therealjr]

Easy for white man to say.

I'd disagree. Everything is difficult for the white man to say (or indeed the man when dealing with women, or the able bodied when addressing the disabled) for fear of innocent remarks being mis-interpreted.

[Alsatian]

I'd disagree. Everything is difficult for the white man to say (or indeed the man when dealing with women, or the able bodied when addressing the disabled) for fear of innocent remarks being mis-interpreted.

Hear hear!

[Pete]

Have any of you ever asked black folks what they think? I have - you obviously haven't.

[Alsatian]

Have any of you ever asked black folks what they think? I have - you obviously haven't.

Have you asked a 'visually impaired' man what he thinks about blind men jokes?

[Pete]

Have you ever seen a doll with dark glasses and a white stick?

[k4blades]

Easy for white man to say.

I could take offence at that, are you suggesting that because I'm white and male, I can't empathise with others who aren't. Thats in the Diane Abbot league of get outs.

And as for asking black folks what they think, I bet I've had closer and probably more relationships with black people than the vast majority on this forum, (having lived/worked in Brum for many years) and believe or not, some of them don't find racism in every little thing that people say or do, most black people, like white, judge people as a whole, rather than judging the book by its cover......and most of the PC brigade isn't black/muslim/lesbian....they are just busy bodies who want to tell the rest of us how to think.

[Alsatian]

Have you ever seen a doll with dark glasses and a white stick?

..........what, like this one?

http://www.kidslikeme.co.uk/disability-dolls-are-all-the-rage-i2113.html

[Pete]

I'm not suggesting that at all - although I'd say most replies are rooted in unconscious petty racism.

I was merely saying the world has moved on and golliwogs should be left behind in the past. It was you who ramped up the aggression in the thread.

Empathising is not like being black - one of my best friends of the last 50 years is black and I grew with him and his family from the early sixties and even lived with him for a while in the seventies and have seen him racially abused at every point in his life.

In fact I would question why this thread was even started if not to pander to petty racism.

@Alsation - very good

[k4blades]

What
Please don't accuse me of being aggressive, there is absolutely nothing aggressive in my posts, I simply asked you to justify you saying that people were being disrespectful.....that's you accusing Fly as he posted the pic.

And as for empathising, are you suggesting we can only comment on things that we have personally dealt with. As a man, I can't comment on how a rape victim might feel, as an atheist, I can't comment on religious views, as a non-union member, I can't comment on union activity.......that is the ludicrous position taken by those who think they know better. Incidentally, you are not black either, so what makes you more qualified than me.
You seem to be saying that as you know some black people, its offensive. I'm saying I also know black people who wouldn't find it offensive...what makes your argument valid and mine not.....oh yeah, PC brigade thinking they know best again.

If you want to debate the issue with me that's fine, but be consistent.....and don't accuse me of being aggressive just because I question something you say....its almost like being in the other place.