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This is what intitutional abuse truly look like
« on: July 07, 2018, 03:20:21 PM »
I was brought up in a Derbyshire County Council children’s home in the north west region of Derbyshire around 30 miles from my home, quite a few memories stick out including beatings and the constant undermining and the constant threats and being told I and the other kids were worthless and a drain on taxpayer it was like living with an axe hanging over your head 24 hours a day all this and still only an 8year old who's foster mother had the misfortune to die of breast cancer a year previously, so it was deemed my foster father could not look after me and I would be better off in care so I was sent to this hell hole run by Derbyshire County Council.
One of the earliest memories happened when I was about 8 years old in those days we slept four to a room and all the boys in my room were of a similar age, the beds were of a tubular steel construction with metal springs, and due to the sagging of these springs the beds were fitted with a plywood base for the mattress to fit on without sagging (these beds were replaced when I was about 14) back to my story.
As 8 year olds we had to go to bed at 6-30pm even in summer when we could hear the local kids playing outside and the early evening sunlight was streaming through the thin curtains, as you would expect we were talking amongst ourselves but very quietly as we knew the consequences if we were found out would not be pleasant, however we did not know that the man who ran the home had crept upstairs and was outside the door listening, in he came while we went into a shocked silence as he immediately told us to  get up and stand by our beds.
We were then made to stand by our beds and told not to move for what as a child seemed like hours though we had no clock so it was difficult to know how long we stood for we were just left standing next to our beds, on his return the man who ran the home instructed us to remove our mattresses, pillows and blankets from the beds and just leave the sheets and we were then made to sleep on the wood covered bed frames with no mattress pillows or blankets and just a plain white sheet for cover though we did manage to get to sleep we were woken up around or just after midnight and trooped downstairs, this time the room had a clock and the first time I took notice of it I noted it was around a quarter to one am.
We were made to sit round a table in the room while the guy who ran the home sat at one end of the table and proceeded to give us the usual lecture on how useless we were how our parents did not want us so much so that some of them had chosen to die rather than be stuck with us and the “tax payer would be better off without such ungrateful leeches to support” (I will point out at this point I had no idea what a leech was) he then informed  sadistically us he was going to teach us not to talk when we were sent to bed and we were made to sit in silence while he study us and if anyone seemed to be dropping off he would bang on the table with his fists.
This went on until around four o’clock in the morning at which time we were escorted upstairs to return to our plywood covered and blanket and pillow less beds. I have chosen this to make public as it is not as potentially distressing as some of my more X rated memoirs, and it must be said the type of persons who behave in such a manner are still out there and still like this man a respected pillar of society. And should you be in any doubt as to the veracity of my recollections one of the boys from that night lives locally and we do occasionally meet up.
i hope this goes someway towards expalaining what has been described as my crusading against against abuse and injustice in all its forms whoever these actions are inflicted upon, i am a product of that abusive unjust and corrupt system and for that i make no apology

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 05:53:22 PM »
Hifimad I am sorry for what you were put through as a child.
Having been a foster carer for many years I have supported children who have been through terrible experiences.

Some have disclosed things to me which no child or anyone should have to go through.

I'm not sure which care home you were in but Breadsall Remand Home in Derby was notorious as was the Dr who abused children whilst there.

Fortunately these days social care try to place children with foster carers own home's.

If you haven't ever had counselling I would urge you to seek it. x
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 12:28:59 AM »
Thank you for your concern my post refers to things which happened to me over 55 years ago i wrote that memoir in 2009 and never posted it, and only posted it when certain parties questioned my motives and my integrity, as regards councelling no doubt the councillors will be working for another corrupt government institution and as ever files will be held to use against me or my family at a later date, i have no doubt your motives are pure, however a lot of the memories i am holding are of a rather base nature and i prefer to take them with me to the grave.

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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 08:37:26 AM »
I understand what you mean but off loading to the right people can be helpful. It doesn't matter how long ago it was.
It just helps the 'moving on' process.

I have some knowledge of mental health and the system though, and it is in a poor state with not enough psychiatrists or psychologists and we have to keep banging on their doors for more support.
We have counselling sessions which are money based and so sessions are  limited. Once the number of sessions are completed if more is needed it is back to banging on doors!

It took three years for one person I have supported ( like you they suffered as a child ) but I had to keep banging on the doors for more help.

The only thing I do know is that social care has vastly improved in the last 20 years plus, and although we can never completely stop the abuse to children it is a much tighter run ship for any abusers to get away with it.
Care homes are avoided if possible which is good.


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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2018, 01:20:28 PM »
Your "childhood" such as it was sounds very much like the contents of a Dickensian novel. Quite obviously I have no knowledge on the subject you described, and even though it was many years ago now I believe your story {and others who suffered a similar fate} should be heard, especially if certain adults in those institutions are still alive because if nothing is said then they, and their kind, have won.

Unfortunately whistle blowing can be, and is, a minefield and those that end up in the limelight to point fingers and accuse certain individuals {especially if some of those individuals are still alive} well it takes guts, but I think it cannot be ignored any longer, it doesn't matter if it happened fifty years ago or just yesterday it needs to be brought out into the public domain, whatever you and/or others in a similar situation decide I take my hat off to you

 I started this post with an analogy...... your life reading like a Dickensian novel { Nicholas Nickleby}
It would be nice to finish the analogy with reading a Dumas novel {The Count of Monte Cristo}
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2018, 04:49:53 PM »
my son if he reads this will laugh at your reference to the The Count of Monte Cristo, as he though fictcious has always been a bit of a hero of mine, my son has in the past likened my quests for justice to him, though at the end he unlike me strays into sentementality, as regards telling story the whole of my eary life that would need to involve others, some of whom i have not seen for years including my best friend at the time who was involved with me in a partucularly sordid set of circumstances, as a matter of honour this and other recollections will never be repeated without his or their express approval, as i see this as a matter of honour i intend to revert back to silence. i am heartened by yours and old cruisers concern, and i must say i have always thought people would either not beleive my recollections or worse take the p*ss.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 11:32:28 AM »
my son if he reads this will laugh at your reference to the The Count of Monte Cristo, as he though fictcious has always been a bit of a hero of mine, my son has in the past likened my quests for justice to him, though at the end he unlike me strays into sentementality, as regards telling story the whole of my eary life that would need to involve others, some of whom i have not seen for years including my best friend at the time who was involved with me in a partucularly sordid set of circumstances, as a matter of honour this and other recollections will never be repeated without his or their express approval, as i see this as a matter of honour i intend to revert back to silence. i am heartened by yours and old cruisers concern, and i must say i have always thought people would either not beleive my recollections or worse take the p*ss.

Oh I believe you!!
It only takes one person to speak out and surprisingly others will be relieved and follow.
Not all of course.

Having read several books by people who have suffered like yourself in care homes some of the things were truly horrendous.

The book I read about the home I mentioned was a disgusting and horrendous treatment of children not only by the care workers there but by Dr Milner ----

I understand your need for silence though and respect your reasons for this as I fully understand how painful these memories will be x
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 04:20:38 PM »
I was discussing my post with a good friend of mine over the weekend, and he asked me about how such a thing was allowed to happen and surely there were protections in place at the time to ensure this could not happen, though at the time we were not aware of any protections the protections that were in place were ignored, we had what was known at the time as welfare officers who would supposedly come and visit us to discuss our well being and to find out if we had any problems they could help us with (we did not know this at the time and only became aware of this long after leaving).
These visits were very short and due to their actions the contact with the actual children was even shorter, invariably what actually happened was that the welfare officer would turn up and immediately disappear into the television room with the man who ran the home where he or she would be treated to coffee and biscuits and I now  assume would discuss things concerning our welfare or not as the case may be, at a later point the welfare officer would come out and maybe meet us (not in private) ask a few questions and then leave, these interactions rarely lasted more than a few minutes out of a one hour visit.
Another strategy employed was our incoming  and outgoing mail was intercepted and tampered with, also if any family members were to ring up we knew our calls were monitored a fact the man in charge of the home laughably denied, however the layout of the home was there was the large house which was the home and a separate house for the people who ran it, and from one of the front windows of the home you could see a side window which had a phone on the window ledge and every time one of the boys were on the phone to others we could see  either the man who ran the home or his wife on this phone through the window,  it was one of the older boys who pointed it out and also that there was only one phone line coming in so why when one of the boys was on the phone were he or she on it.
I remember clearly one incident which occurred during the school holidays, we had some local dignitaries visiting and I was walking through to another room and saw a boy called Steve using the phone to talk to his family, I noted that the man who ran the homes wife was on the phone at the window also on the phone as walked back, the man asked if I had seen his wife and I told him that she was in the other house listening to Steve’s call  this while talking to the visitors, he made an excuse and I went back to what I was doing, at the time I did not consider I had done anything wrong  and we all took the listening on the phone as a fact of life, shortly after the people left I was summoned to the office to tod during the obligatory beating I had told him this to embarrass him in front of visitors and I was getting my just deserts , as a result of this  we used to go swimming regularly in Buxton however we did not go swimming for a couple of weeks supposedly as a punishment on all of us for my malicious actions, it was not until discussing this years after I left that I considered it was in fact to allow time for the bruises I had to disappear.
As another indication of corruption by social services here is something which happened more recently, my son was assaulted by a teacher at Newbold School he had his arm purposefully trapped in a door and received a graze and subsequent bruising on his wrist on collecting him from school and seeing the extent of his injury I phoned the police to report a case of actual bodily harm and then took him to the doctors. The policeman who was supposed to investigate this matter called on us a few days later informing us that the doctor had stated to him that the injury in question could not have happened in the way my son had described (I spoke to the doctor a few days later and he told me what he had said was he could not categorically state that the injury was sustained in the manner described by my son) we heard no more for a few weeks even though I rang the police regularly for updates, getting tired of this I rang up the police and spoke to an inspector informing him I intended to pursue a complaint of no action against the police, it was at this point I was informed by the police that there had been a child protection meeting held by the social services and he provided me with a telephone number to contact for more information.
The response I got on ringing this number was very instructive, the man I spoke to was highly annoyed and demanded to know where I had got the number it turned out he had been the chair of this highly corrupt meeting, why corrupt you may ask, well for that you need to know the rules governing these meetings, all agencies dealing with the child are allowed to be there ie police school, representatives of the local education authorities and social workers If they are involved  with the child,  but not the parents, also to ensure the child is protected a social worker is appointed to fully protect the child during the process, also the Childs parents have to be contacted and the whole process be explained to them both before during and after the process, the reason I call it corrupt is that until I had spoke to the police I knew nothing about the process and it had been quietly dealt with and a decision of no further action needed had been taken, it is instructive that the chair of this child protection meeting was just a few weeks from retiring and that also members of the panel at that meeting were also at his leaving party, as a result of my complaints regarding the way this process was handled I managed to get the outcome overturned and also insisted I be given a copy of the original minutes of the meeting, the schools headmaster during the meeting was able to smear me and my family by and I quote “THERE IS INTENSE  SOCIAL SERVICES INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS FAMILY”  this was accepted by the meeting even though it was utterly untrue and they knew it , as a result of the abandonment of this meeting a social worker was appointed to my son and a new meeting arranged.
My son was then interviewed by this social worker who insisted the interview was to be conducted with just the social worker in a private room with my son I informed the social worker that I would be present at all times and if at any point I felt they represented a threat to my son I would defend my son to the death preferably theirs.
At the second meeting I again insisted on the minutes and got them, the social worker appointed to look after my sons interest stated that during the interview with my son that they felt my son was unclear with his explanation of the events that took place and also he appeared to  have been coached in the evidence he did give, putting aside the contradiction in this position,  at this point I will tell you my son was a special needs child and he was medically diagnosed as having both short and long term memory problems so even had I wanted to I couldn’t coach him he would just forget , and let us not forget this was two months after the assault took place which was their fault not mine once again I complained and received an apology, big deal eh.
The Social Services are corrupt abusers who are rotten to the core and I have nothing but a pathological hatred and contemptuous and deep loathing for them  and the abuses they have committed in the past and the abuses they are no doubt committing as I write this reply and as I have no doubt they will continue to commit in the future.




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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 04:39:41 PM »
to fly i am sorry i appear to have gon on a bit and to anyone reading this who notices the ocassional leter missing or other typing errors, the reason is i cannot type exept with one finger hence mistakes are made and go unoticed

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 05:33:47 PM »
Hifimad, I'm sorry for the bad experience regarding your son.

I can only say that during my time as a foster carer I only ever witnessed respect from Social workers for the children I had.
The children were paid a visit in my home or taken out where one to one private conversations could be spoken between them - yes including their life living with me.
I was always under scrutiny - i know that.

Any allegations made about foster carers are taken very seriously and quite rightly so, they are dealt with by social services and the foster carer is put in touch with an independant body, who will support them.

It sounds as if your sons incident was dealt with very badly and yes it will give a bad impression of our care system.

As a ps -  have you ever actually put everything you went through as a child on paper? Not necessarily to share as it can be destroyed on completion - very therapeutic  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 06:54:37 PM »
yes i am sure they scrutunised you most diligantly and i am equally sure had i inflicted the injuries on my son that the zeal of their scrutiny would have been swift and decisive however when it is themselves or other Derbyshire County Council services ther zeal  seems to go sadly missing, shortly after the death of my foster mother my existing welfare officer was moving away so a new one was appointed, this woman was snide intrusive and a total sh*t, i learned much later that even though my foster dad was doing his best to continue looking after his own daughter and his son plus me who at this time had no idea he was not my real father, this walking peice of human dog excrement would walk around his home and would run her fingers across surfaces and say look at this dust and criticise everting else, this for a good man who had recently lost his wife, at this point i will tell you that i lived in a pit village where every house was coal fired including the bungalow i lived, in everthing was covered is i light film of soot all the time, you would clean it up in the morning and by the afternoon it would be as bad again, people who lived in bolsover overlooking the pits and coalite will know what i am talking about, i fervently hope she died alone and screaming in agony as she died slowly of  cancer neglect and ultimately malnutrition.

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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2018, 12:22:10 AM »
i feel i owe the readers an apology, as you might be aware this is a rather touchy subject and i have attempted to be as objective as i can in the circumstances, however when writing about what had happened to my father my objectivity temporarily flew out of the window and i made certain comments concerning someones demise that would appear to others in bad taste, these comments were my own personal beliefs and should have remained private to myself and if my beliefs have offended anybody i offer this apology, so while i stand by what i wrote i apologise if this is at all offensive to any reader.

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2018, 06:58:05 AM »
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There’s no need to apologise to me for your ‘long’ post, or to anyone for your grammar  :)
Those times can’t have been easy for you  :(
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2018, 08:23:20 PM »
I am very much aware of what the coal/coke fires create.
My parents home was always covered in a light film of dust - yes my dad was a miner.

I can't speak for past years and cleanliness in foster carers homes but am sure a light dust film wouldn't phase today's social workers.
The child's welfare is at the centre at all times and if they are being well looked after and happy things are good.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2018, 01:07:19 PM »
my childhood days have left me with a deep distrust of any government institution national or local, and i must tell you in a lot of my dealings with these institutions i have yet to be proved wrong, i have witnessed the ignoring of rules, abuses, cover, ups and in the case of certain councils endemic lying and law breaking, if there is a good thing about my upbringing, it has taught me to question the actions of these institutions and ultimately to see them for the lawless abusers they truly are, you might consider that i would be angry or annoyed at fly for locking my other post, not one bit of it, the majority of people never experience these injustices as a result of these institutions not making it easy for people to be aware of what they are doing behind the scenes, i do not consider people blind or apathetic, the fact is these institutions are very highly accomplished at hiding their abuses and unless you are conditioned by bad experiences such as myself you tend not see them, hence i do not get phased when i am accused of being a lunatic conspiracy theorist on one of his interminable rants, so yes i am very cognizant of their abusive behaviour and as i alwars say every silver lining has its cloud, i was asked a while ago if i am a glass half full or a gasss half empty person my imediate response was, what glass i was never given one.
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